Part 1 of a 3-part series where Clayton goes in-depth on the American Congress Party and his political platform to become the next US House of Representatives for the 17th District with the boys from the Cult of Conspiracy Podcast.
Timecodes
(00:00:00) - Intro and Vision
(00:08:26) - Political Platform on Immigration and Taxation
(00:15:40) - Education, Healthcare, and Policy Reform
(00:28:12) - Education and Politics in School Systems
(00:34:16) - Discussion on Education and Society
(00:46:27) - Combat Sports and Emotional Intelligence
(00:50:29) - Rite of Passage and Confidence
Clayton's Campaign: Clayton24.com
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Part 1 of a 3-part series where Clayton goes in-depth on the American Congress Party and his political platform to become the next US House of Representatives for the 17th District with the boys from the Cult of Conspiracy Podcast.
Timecodes
(00:00:00) - Intro and Vision
(00:08:26) - Political Platform on Immigration and Taxation
(00:15:40) - Education, Healthcare, and Policy Reform
(00:28:12) - Education and Politics in School Systems
(00:34:16) - Discussion on Education and Society
(00:46:27) - Combat Sports and Emotional Intelligence
(00:50:29) - Rite of Passage and Confidence
Clayton's Campaign: Clayton24.com
FREE 999 Meditation Challenge: Sign Up Here
What is up? Conscious monkeys? Welcome back to another episode of traveling to consciousness. As always, I'm your host, clain cuterie, and today I actually won't be hosting. Instead, today I'm gonna leave the hosting up to Jonathan and Jacob. Now, jonathan and Jacob are the hosts of the Cult of Conspiracy podcast. If those names sound familiar, it's because they were on the traveling to consciousness podcast for episodes 066.
Speaker 1:However, back in December we released a podcast on their podcast when I was being interviewed to talk about my time and running for Congress and why I'm running and what my viewpoints are on a bunch of different topics. So I felt like this was a Very unique and a powerful podcast that I wanted to release to you guys. So I'm gonna release it in like a three-part series. I'm not sure if they'll be back to back the back Honestly they probably will but I just want to let you guys know heads up on that. And the only note that I wanted to make is at the time of recording, I was running in the 12th district. I am now running in the 17th district of PA. Small update, long story. If you're interested, leave a comment and I'll get to you and I'll let you know why that is. But small update. But anyhow, without further delay, jonathan and Jacob take it away.
Speaker 2:I Just see you loving the setup man.
Speaker 3:Why are you looking like such?
Speaker 4:a stud today, dude, because we're about to fix America. That's why let's go, yes.
Speaker 2:So you are running for this a local office, a federal office, he was tell me a bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, federal office. So the 12th district of PA representative, who's the incumbent? The incumbent is summer Lee. She's Democrat and you are Republican or Democrat. I am American Congress Party.
Speaker 2:You're a new party trying to take the ballot spot.
Speaker 4:They are new party. This is the future of America right here is in this party. That's, you guys have the very first interview with the future of America right here.
Speaker 3:Fuck yeah, dude, let's go.
Speaker 2:That's so awesome oh bro, I wish you a lot of luck. I have had a few friends of mine go in and on the political route, some for local, some for, you know, higher positions. Someone made it, some haven't. Dude the the dog eat dog world. That just is politics is.
Speaker 3:I wish you all the luck so dude, and good luck in the swamp of fucking Pennsylvania, bro, because that is up. You know, I'm from there too and I know the politics up there are. What is it, federman, that big idiot? He's from Pennsylvania, isn't he?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's a senator. He just got elected two years ago.
Speaker 3:That dude's the most clueless guy I've ever seen talk in my life.
Speaker 4:You know, we definitely have an issue with this Consistent thing that's happening, where we have a bunch of politicians who are very out of date, outdated, very out of touch and Seem, quite frankly, to have health problems which they should certainly be getting addressed, as opposed to being placed in positions of power and creating laws and running this country.
Speaker 3:I Couldn't agree more. Let's go dude, all right. So I know we only have a little bit of. We're running a little bit late this morning, me and Jacob, we've been trying to. He was like, oh well, I think, I think I'm gonna have to do it later, and then it was like I don't know that then and then just keep it the same, and then we forgot that we didn't change the time on it. So that's why he's a little late this morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I apologize about that. I worked a night shift last night. I was about one hour into sleep and he caught me was like bro, Are you coming? I was like shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm on the way. I'm on the way, so we rolling. I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 2:Oh, I appreciate the effort. Yeah, man, I appreciate you're putting in dog.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, dude, lots of efforts going in, but it's been energizing man. It's one of those things like you know, you even hearing you sit in there saying like oh, you know it's, it's a doggy dog world. It's such a swamp, it's so terrible. Like to me. That energizes me. It's like exciting. It's like exciting to be able to take on a challenge which is perceived as very difficult and I'm not saying that it's easy by any stretch of the imagination but to to sit there and be like, ah, like, let's go. It's that. It's that energy of like this is exciting.
Speaker 2:So what I meant as far as the doggy dog, and I agree like I'm glad that you are feeling charged up and like radio attack. This head on fucking stoked man had a buddy mine who was going for some. I think was like a parish president y'all would have. Like a county President or like how does that work in other states? Like a mayor, not like the mayor of a city, but like a dude of a man. I guess a councilman somebody was basically over an entire county. What would you call that?
Speaker 4:a County representative? I'm not sure, but that would be more a county rep, maybe somebody.
Speaker 2:To like the secretary of the state for like rose and drainage and shit like that they used to get done. Anyway, he went to this banquet and he was running under the Republican ticket and there was a couple other you know people that he was going up against, but he actually stood a pretty good shot. Long story short, he sat at a table, being very new to all this political mumbo jumbo, he sat at a table that had an open seat and he sat down, didn't realize who else was sitting at this table and apparently three of the 10 people at this table had Some beef with pretty much everybody else at this banquet and now that he was sitting with them he was seen as they're a part of their clique and that was his first like outing as a new and up-and-coming politician and he just got branded with it from day one. He had never met these people before this night but it was like the Politics game and who your friends with and who you're clicked up with.
Speaker 2:Oh my god. He just explained that one thing and he just went. How it went down. Granted, louisiana politics is like notorious for nepotism. Got that thousand percent, but like it's it's wild how many levels to that world there are.
Speaker 4:You know, I Remember Tulsi Gabbard talking about this exact issue on Joe Rogan, where you have essentially clicks in our government, which to me, first of all, I I like to see everyone's opinion. You know, podcasting has helped me tremendously in this regard of Realizing that we're all so much more similar than we are different, but even more so it's. It's like to me it just kind of blows my. It makes sense, but at the same time it's like let's get to a place where we're doing things for the good of the people. You know, if you don't like me, it should be because of my policy is not representing the people as a whole, and to me that it's just. I understand it, but I at least hopefully, a part of this movement is to get to that place where it's like okay, this is a movement for the people, I don't care what your background is, I don't care if I've done something that offends you. Like, let's get past this in the good of the people, and this is even a Part of it of of just running to get the name of American Congress Party out there so that it can encourage more people to take up this mantle, because I see it that people don't have this vision for it right?
Speaker 4:We have this muddied system and the only visions that are being put forth for us are Terrible things, doomsday, apocalypses. In the meantime, we can focus on a more beautiful future. I mean, you guys have the third eye open the entire time. Our third eyes can open and close, and if our eyes are open and we're focusing on a Negative world, it's what we're gonna create. So, hopefully, more than even just winning like winning is great and I see it happening at some point in time winning is great, but the the real, fundamental point of this is to encourage more people to join American Congress Party, to take up elections in their local, in their local city whether it's a congressman, they're all the way up to the senator level just to really ignite and energize and get these visions out there, because that's how this All works.
Speaker 4:Is is the programming and I'm sure you guys go deep into this on your podcast. So much of the programming is just doomsday, doom and gloom, terrible things, war, that this person's evil, that person's evil. We need to remove this. This is not the way forward. We need to really focus on the future that we want to create and Everything else aside. I hope that's the bedrock of, and I know it's the bedrock of this party moving forward.
Speaker 2:All right, all right Started, because I already tell we're just gonna get straight into the thick of it and I think that the pre-show, while it's great, the main show needs to get that too, especially with us running on a bit of a time crunch today.
Speaker 4:Well, we can have fun too. I don't have along the way, I'm gonna have some fun.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 4:I have fun. We can't make this too serious now. Everyone gets a little trapped up in the serious nature. We'll have fun along the way, of course.
Speaker 3:Let's do it. Oh, hello and welcome to the show. This is the cult of conspiracy and my name is Jonathan Jacob, and today we we have Clayton Kateri. Welcome to the show, for what? Is it? The third or fourth time you've been on the show today, sir? Or not today, but third time, third time.
Speaker 2:First time coming on the show as a up-and-coming candidate for this new political season.
Speaker 4:Let's go, let's go Well. District of PA. Yes, indeed, and so you are running under the Congress party, correct? American Congress party, the.
Speaker 2:American Congress party, a new party that is being stood up. Is it by you, or is this a grouping and you're a part of it? How does that happen?
Speaker 4:Right now in the second official member, there's a couple people behind the scenes. One of them, the main member who started. His name is Brandon Konsey, so had him on my podcast talked all these amazing things about his guru who lives in India, who went and actually created what he's calling a Heaven City. So we're talking like no beggars. We're talking free food, chemical free food. We're talking free education, upgraded education. Our education system model is so broken it does not cultivate the human spirit whatsoever. We're talking free medication and so much more. And so through my conversation with Brandon on that podcast is really how this entire party, like how I got involved in the party and really I'm looking forward to pushing this movement forward.
Speaker 3:So let's go, dude. I love being able to incorporate like what the soul needs. You know what I'm saying. Like it is so sad to see all these beggars and you know like Just people on the corners. You know whether they're sleeping in tents not being able to receive something Meanwhile.
Speaker 3:I mean, you look at some of the, some of the shit, like all, all of the all the people that are coming into America that are undocumented Maybe they're just coming in without any kind of green card or anything like that, and they're being given literally the world, and we're kind of seeing this literally across the world. We just had an episode where, you know, ireland is being flooded with refugees and those refugees are getting more love from Ireland than even the Irish people, and that's unacceptable. You're seeing it all over Europe and Canada and it's happening here in the United States as well. So I mean, is this something that is? Is this, would you say, that your run is is all about, like, not all about putting America first, but are you excited to like really be able to get America back up to where it really should be?
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely. And it's even bigger than that. These policies that I'm putting forth, it's for the world. I mean America is going to reap the benefits of it first. Just because I'm running within Pennsylvania, I'm, you know, an American citizen. But these ideas are foundational pieces that can be implemented within any country over the world and truly make a difference. Because even, like you're saying, you know there's a lot in there.
Speaker 4:With the immigration piece, number one, we certainly need to update our immigration system where we are able to process people quicker, get them in quicker, because this is only going to be beneficial to the American people in terms of increased taxes, more income. We're going to have more support, you know. But we also need to look at it on the front of why are people flooding to America? Well, we're spending billions at this point, trillions of dollars, to create a war, to destabilize foreign countries, and the people have to go other places, like you mentioned, ireland and England. It's like why are refugees running there? Oh, we're funding innocent people getting killed.
Speaker 4:It's like that's another huge cornerstone of the American Congress Party, which is to stop all wars, create peace on earth. I mean, that's the goal, that should be everybody's goal, and yet the policies that are being put forth not even the policies, but the actions that are being taken within Congress, within our political system, are to fund and continue wars. And so you have this two front issue right. Number one let's get more people in, let's increase tourism in America. That's really going to increase our profits. That's only going to be able to help us pay off our debt. At the same time, we should also be looking at it from a foreign policy perspective of creating peace so that people can thrive and prosper in the land that they were born in.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this as far as your party's stance on something Scott heard, you made a couple of mentions of things that do sound more in the line of socialism rather than congressional, so let me let me make sure that we're putting all of it in the right basket here. You mentioned something about free healthcare and free education and these things, and of course we're talking about I mean, who wouldn't want global peace? I mean, world peace is always the goal, but in this unstable world we live in, yes, america does in fact have the biggest stick as far as the speak softly and carry a big stick. Conversation goes Fine and we do reap a bit of freedom and benefits and security from that. We don't worry that in the middle of the night, some foreign invaders going to blow us up.
Speaker 2:The proposition of that is laughable for many, many levels, chief among those being that our military is the force that it is. You had mentioned you would like to have a faster and expedited process to bring in more people as a way to increase taxes. I got to say I am very much against increasing taxes, period. In fact, I'm of the belief that we need to take away taxes to like minimal if possible.
Speaker 4:Sure, let me reiterate that, not increase. We're definitely reducing taxes, but if you have more people coming in, then you increase the number of people who are paying taxes. Thus we have more money in the system.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have more taxable income, is what you're saying across more people, more W2, so to speak. Correct?
Speaker 4:With you now. Okay, overall, individually, taxes will be reduced. That's a part of the parties platform.
Speaker 2:Okay, See when you say that I was like hold on, that's not a good stance to take, dog. So then, with that, we're also talking about not opening up the floodgate that is our southern border. You're talking about having more resources allocated to properly either let people in or turn them away at the border, as dictated what, who is and is not lawfully supposed to be there, all of this, but you're saying we need to have more resources at the border, correct?
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely. I mean, look at the system we have right now. They're just loading them up onto buses and they're shipping them off to whatever country or sorry, whatever city they want to go to, whatever county. And this is an issue where I even just saw a report recently that the drug cartels are the one who are operating these busing systems. Now you know, I don't want to get into the thick of whether or not that's true or not, I'm not 100% certain but the fact remains that it's not our military who is documenting these people, having them come in, understanding why they're here. I mean, we should bring them in, but we need to know who's in our country if we want to have a safe country, let alone a country at all.
Speaker 2:I agree, especially now that we are finding 40 IEDs on the southern border and we have cartel members getting an open gunfight to our border patrol. Absolutely Like. You're right, it's not the military deciding who and who doesn't get in this. It's not a defensive structure across our southern border. It's a homeland security situation, not a defense situation, and I think that it should be. Hopefully, here in the future it becomes more of that way. But you are saying that you would rather have more military forces on the southern border, or you're saying there's a whole nother way to go about this, or let me. Let me ask instead of what is your personal opinion, what is your new party's opinion on this matter, if you could?
Speaker 4:We need to have. The primary thing is that we need to have a way for people to quickly get documented, to come in. We need to understand who the people are that are coming in. Where are they from? Why are they coming? If they're refugees, I mean, we should be able to provide aid for them. A big issue, though, is if people are just coming in and slipping through, we're not documenting them. We don't know where they're going. You know, this creates a lot of confusion. It creates a lot of issues, not only for the American people, but for the immigrants as well. I mean, and this causes this huge issue that gets unfolded. And so, you know, maybe the solution is putting more troops on the border. You know, maybe building a wall is a part of the solution, but again, there are only there are only band-aids where the bigger issue is really upgrading the current system in order for us to be able to provide the best support, not only for the people coming in, but the people who are already here at the same time.
Speaker 3:So, Clayton, you recently, whenever the last time you came onto the show, you were getting into the Gospel of Thomas, right, and within that Gospel of Thomas, you were more searching for the esoteric truth rather than the exoteric meaning behind it, and I believe that you probably look at the Bible and all spiritual things through that lens. Rather than worrying about the exoteric, You're more focused on the actual meaning, the esoteric and what's going on within the soul and the consciousness, and in that way, Is that something that you're really trying to apply to a lot of your policies and stuff. As far as you know what's good for the human, you know just at a soul level, rather than looking at somebody just based upon you know, whatever their religious reasons are, whatever you know the way they live their life in a certain way, If it's really for the people, then I would have to imagine that you're probably applying that mindset to a lot of these politics right, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 4:In all of this. Everything you've touched on comes back to education. You know there's, through the research that I've done, so many religions are more similar than they are different, and yet we hyper focus on those differences and then we say you're a different person than me and we carry out war in the name of it, which is, you know, if we view those core common things of okay, treat others as you want to be treated, look at the beauty in another. God lives within all of us. You know, if we truly believe that, we truly knew that we wouldn't be carrying out these wars on mass scale. But, more importantly, like you're saying, this comes back to the education system, which we do need to upgrade.
Speaker 4:You look at what we have right now as we put people in rows. Our entire education system is based off the Prussian model, which I'm not sure if you guys have done much research into it, but the core concept, if no one has heard of it before, is to create good, military, obedient servants. Our education model right now is based on teaching people how to be in servitude, essentially a slave mindset of okay, take orders from top down. Think in a square box. There's only one right answer, you need to do it on your own, and this is could not be further from from spirit, from our natural essence of being human, of working in groups, figuring out how to collaborate, knowing that there is more than one correct answer to a problem, being out in nature, not having to sit within rows, and then, and then, on top of that, this is where medication comes in. Is that, then, because we are? We have created an education system that is not conducive to the human spirit.
Speaker 4:We then decide to medicate kids in order to get them into this.
Speaker 4:You know, techno, technological, squared off, you are right, you know, robotic, state, and so you know I'll touch on this briefly, because it was brought up about this seeming socialistic once we fix our education system, once we truly teach people about the power of your breathwork, emotional intelligence, regulating your emotions, understanding humming, understanding meditation, once you understand those things, your medication levels will tremendously drop. There really won't be too many medication issues that we have. At least, it will be far smaller than the numbers we have now. On top of all of this, we spend so much money on probably the most, I believe, per capita on education and medication, and yet we have some of the worst rates in the entire world. So whenever we're talking about these things being free, we're gonna be reducing the amount of money we're truly putting into it and really just upgrading all of these things to cultivate, like we were talking about the human spirit, that essence of us that lives beyond time and space, and really have a true, prosperous society for all Americans.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that too, because, alright, walk with me down this road. The medical system itself doesn't need to cost what it does in America. Okay, if you look at any hospitals, oh, what's it called? Not their little black book, what's it called? Every hospital has one. I think it's called their black book in general and it's more or less their particular.
Speaker 2:Hospitals upcharge for everything and that black book gets updated every year with their annual budget because X amount more people didn't pay their medical bills this year than last year. So we have to upcharge the people that do pay in the year coming up to make our bottom dollar happy and to make our board of directors happy and the owners and the things and the stuff. So a saline bag that should cost $1.50 will run you about $250, as a matter of fact, because you have to factor in all the X's and the Y's and the Z's that somehow made a $1.50 turn to $2.50, but whatever, whatever. So, as you're saying free medical care, you're not saying that y'all are going to, or that the United States government will, in a socialistic way, take over the medical system and it'll be a state-run medical system. You're not saying that. You're saying that y'all are going to more or less attempt to force the hospitals to charge what they're supposed to charge. Thereby we will have plenty of excess to pay that just off the top for people.
Speaker 3:Which, essentially, would be cutting the insurance policies at the knees right.
Speaker 2:Cutting them off because the insurance is really the ones that are boasting all this price up, and that's the thing now that when now you brought the insurance companies because now we have to talk about hospital lobbyists coming into DC and talking about how that's the worst idea ever we're talking big farmers going to come in with their lobbyists talking about how we need to keep the current medical system the way it is. Then we have the educational boards that come behind, all those medical doctors and certifications and all the things to back and double down on that, and then we have that group with their lobbyists.
Speaker 4:So it's a you can see it. Yeah, you see it. There was a stat I saw the other day. There was a study. I actually put this on my website. If you go to my policy section on Clayton24.com is your pharmacies they fund 50% of continued medical education within the work-. That screen messed me up for a sec. Yeah, so it's okay. Yeah, so pharmacies or pharmaceutical companies they fund here. If you go down to free education, pharmaceutical companies chart. Sorry, I'm really getting distracted now looking at this on my screen and then talking.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you off there. I was just bringing it up because you mentioned it, your website.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's all good. Let's see if we can pull this back up. Pharmaceutical companies spend 50% of continued medical education in the United States, and they do this because they see for every dollar that they spend on continued medical education, they see a $3 return on every dollar that they invest within the education system. So right here we're seeing the interconnectivity of the medication and education, though it appears to be separate. The current system is set up that we are not healthcare, we're not truly healing people, we're just treating the causes, we're treating the symptoms, and this increases the budget that people spend on healthcare.
Speaker 4:On top of this, jacob, you brought up how we have these insurance companies. I think there's only maybe like three or four insurance companies in the entire United States and on top of that, they can't even compete across state lines due to the current laws that they have in place. So there's certainly a call for breaking up these insurance companies, making it a more competitive environment, because I'm all for capitalism, but the system that we have in place is not true capitalism. It has become this corrupt, crony capitalistic system, which people then sit back and say, oh, capitalism is broken and it's not.
Speaker 2:I'd say it's more like Roam and Haleck orgy at this point.
Speaker 4:Exactly. The issue is the way that it's been corrupted within the system to influence politicians, to influence education. And here's the thing is, if we had a truly upgraded education system model, which we already spend a ton of money on as a government, if we truly upgraded that to be in service of the people, I see it that that would really fix the majority of the problems we have. And of course, we can do other work in order to alleviate that strain on the system as well.
Speaker 2:But the change to education has come slowly and naturally because we've seen what happened in common core math Just as an example. Not saying we should agree or disagree and we could have that talk, but my point is that whenever common core math got introduced to America, you saw the backlash and people lost their minds about it. Then everybody pretty much just got over it and it got introduced and it's now just being taught. As we talk about upgrading and revamping the American education system, that comes, I don't know, having a huge, drastic overhaul, I feel like we get met with a lot of backlash. It's like certain things have to happen slow. So I'm aware that I'm not the guy to decide how and when those get released you know what I'm saying or how and when those changes happen.
Speaker 3:Right, but at the same point, common core was introduced within a very short period of time, right Like common core, wasn't? We weren't brought up on common core.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. The teachers teaching you stuff.
Speaker 3:Had to learn it with their students. It was that quick and so it's gotten to a point in time where, you know, like me, as a parent, I can't help my daughter in any of her homework, any of her schoolwork. That's not the way we were brought up, because the way they're being taught not what they're being taught, but the way the machine of which they're being taught, is completely different than what we were taught initially.
Speaker 3:Would you say that common core nowadays and this is a very, you know, polarizing topic, so to say, because there are a lot of teachers that believe that common core is a really great thing and it's really helping the students you know, understand but then there's other teachers that are just like yo I mean, I don't even have a say so in how I want to, how I can teach these kids, and that's why you're seeing so many teachers. Just like you know, they're not making enough money and they also, a lot of them, don't even really believe in the way that they're educating their students. So I mean, I do believe that there is a correct way to do it and not every student is the same. Everybody's going to learn something different. I mean, in which way do you believe implementing a new system, maybe one that you know grows with common core, one that completely expels it, which way do you think would be a great way to start implementing into the new school systems?
Speaker 4:A lot of the things that you've said there are certainly very important to address, and I think the main one to address is how so many teachers are leaving teaching. It's something that they absolutely loved and now they're all leaving it and it's like we got to really look at why that's happening. Number one I teach kids between the ages of four and 13, brazilian jiu-jitsu and man, it's an intense job and that's jiu-jitsu I can only imagine for one hour, two hours a day. I can only imagine if you're doing that for eight hours every single day. That's intensive. You got to really love what you're doing.
Speaker 4:On top of that, you know, I believe in increasing teachers' pay. We do need to increase their benefits. We need to empower them to be able to really truly want to be there, because it's a honestly for the amount they get paid, and to do it like. They have to really love that in order for them to be doing what they're doing. On a deeper level, I think that this is a conversation to have with more teachers' unions. You know, I will say that I do need to have more conversations with people that are teachers, with teachers' unions. I know a couple people, but at mass scale and to your point, a huge issue that has happened that you've issued there is that where teachers are learning at the same time, that they're teaching kids, and you can't have an environment of learning when we're both learning at the same time. Now, there can be some utility to that if we're both learning something at the same time.
Speaker 2:There's a different or exchanging of wisdom, rather than the educator being literally questioned by the educated. Then now they're questioning. If this person doesn't even know this subject, how can I believe anything else moving forward? Because they're just as clueless as I am. That sticks with a second grader in the very foundational blocks of their educational career. Absolutely.
Speaker 3:But in the balance of the young mind there must be the shaman or the teacher and the student or the child.
Speaker 4:Right For sure, and in every situation that occurs, right. I'm sure you've seen on Times and Podcasts where you guys are, let's say, the guru or shaman teaching someone something, and then you have people who come on and then are teaching you something. So there's definitely that balance that occurs within every single relationship To this point. You know the way I could see it. Phasing in would be bringing in educators who know about humming, who know about meditation, who know about breathwork, who know about emotional regulation, and having classes for the teachers being able to provide them with this understanding of what's going on, how is it happening, and then have them take it back to their kids. You know the specifics on the implementation are a little fuzzy at this point, but it's going to come from the teachers.
Speaker 4:And this is exactly the thing is, I can be a guru or shaman in a sense, to the teachers of like, hey, we need to bring interest based education in, we need to teach kids about emotional intelligence, and teachers will sit there and say, yes, yes, yes, let's do it. And now it's my turn to be a disciple of the teachers of OK, now, how do you guys see this best being implemented? What do you guys need to know what do you, what resources do you need from the government in order for me to support this vision, because I think, once that happens and this is really the relationship we need to develop with each other is realizing that everyone can be our master in some way, but the secondary thing is that I can also be someone else's master or shaman or guru in another way, and so developing this relationship with the teachers union would be tremendously beneficial, not only for the teachers and for politics, for policies going forward, but also for the kids in our future generation.
Speaker 3:Couldn't agree more. Now, a lot of a couple more things just involving, you know, the education of the youth. Did you say youth, youth? But involving the youth here is that a lot of, a lot of weird sexual shit is being involved into the children's libraries, implemented in some of the children's lessons, and a lot of parents I mean us as parents here we are like yo. If there is a single book in that child's in our kids library, at school, or one that's being brought up or suggested by teachers to read to the students, that needs to be absolutely banished.
Speaker 3:And that's actually a big reason why a lot of parents are turning to homeschooling. Because, you know, the more you look into it, the more you realize that the, the, the public school system, is nothing more than another arm or another branch of the government overreach in a in a way, a way of being able to to brainwash in so many ways. Because, dude, I'm not gonna lie, whenever I was a kid, I didn't give a shit who president, who the president was. I didn't care about politics. You and me are so different.
Speaker 2:I cared about all of that.
Speaker 3:So fucking hard in middle school.
Speaker 2:Oh dude. No, no, no, no, I was in the fourth grade and I was quoting fucking Colin Powell to my classmates. Oh no, no, you and I are very different in this.
Speaker 3:You were definitely always like into that war, military government kind of stuff. But personally, most kids dude, I didn't care, like Clinton, bush, it didn't matter to me. Al Gore who cares, and most kids probably feel that way. Why is it that my daughter is now talking about? Like you know she she's talking about, like you know, I'm anti Trump, or I'm pro Trump, or I'm pro Biden, or I'm anti Biden. It's like, first of all, you're not even old enough to vote, so it shouldn't even be running through your mind. She's a legend, right, yeah, and like. And it's cool that you're interested in that kind of stuff, but know that it's not as. It's not as clean cut as you think it is, and a lot of it is very murky and it's sometimes it's a. It's a little too much for the little mind to be able to take in.
Speaker 2:I have to explain a lot of things to my 10 year old because he's asking some very like solid questions these days. He's like getting his wits about him. He's he's gaining a real understanding of the world at which he lives in, right, and he asked me some random question about Trump one of these days and he asked me some random question about Biden. And it's like all right, how how much do I want to tell a 10 year old? Do I like do I tell him the whole Biden being a clone situation right now, or do I just like leave it alone? Yeah, but he politics are kind of crazy, you know, like it's a weird one. It's a weird one, right?
Speaker 3:But not to go too far into that, but basically, you know just how do we stop all of this like crazy sexualizing of the kids and it going into books and stuff like that. It's really what I wanted to harp on more than anything, because there's a reason why they're trying to implement it and we've covered multiple episodes. There's there's companies such as called GLSEN, which actually target in Walmart, and a lot of these big corporations are required to donate like a percentage of all of their, a lot of, a lot of their earnings, and GLSEN, the company, is actually, in turn, taking a lot of the misrepresented or the unrepresented, like gay kids, and in and in trying to implement that into the schools and a lot of parents thoughts is like yo, we shouldn't be talking about what your sexual preference is as a five year old. Why is this being taught?
Speaker 4:Right, it's a whole. It's a whole program that's been being pushed. It started around 2012. You know, people didn't really care about these issues Like we were as a species. We were and I'm not saying that 100%, but majority of us were essentially past talking about racism, about, you know, gay rights, we were like, okay, yeah, we get it as a majority. Right, I know there's still going to be fringe cases, but as a majority, we were past this.
Speaker 4:What happened was is that we were failing on foreign policy, our debt was getting out of control, and so you can look at the media intervention of oh, we need to create a culture war because we're not going to be doing that. We're not going to be creating a culture war because we're failing on every other front of policies. So let's create a culture war. That's one of the big issues. Another big issue is getting teacher or parents involved. I've heard stories where parents are told not to help their kids with homework and it's like, again, this goes back to the do everything on your own mentality, which is not a part of the real world. On top of this, thank you. I don't know that there is the emotional maturity that has occurred or has. I don't want to say it like that. We have the ability to be emotionally mature, but it seems to me that there are topics that we are not emotionally mature enough about to have real conversations.
Speaker 2:Not on a scale for sure.
Speaker 4:I see this tremendously with the abortion conversation, and we can touch on that at some point if we'd like, but the important thing is that there is a complex nuance that occurs within these things, because you can have a one line like we shouldn't have book burning, we shouldn't outlaw certain books, but at the same time, we do need to protect the innocence of children. We need to allow them and create an environment that they can thrive and not have to have these conversations of well, what's my sexuality? How many genders are there? Like that's just crazy to be pushing on kids from a young age. So it's definitely an environment that does need that touch up, because at one point and I would love to hear your opinions, as, again, here's me wanting to hear from you guys as parents, at some level we do need to understand the energy of sex, because sex is a very powerful energy that the majority of people don't understand.
Speaker 4:We don't know. We had the church try to come in and just basically outlaw it and tell people that you had to wait till marriage. Is that the right call? I don't know. It seems, though, their cultural movement has been pushed into a far more promiscuous place, wanting to alleviate ourselves with the responsibility of it. And yet you look at it and we're not happier for that. So again, there needs to be. Comes back to education. We're not educated on sex, so is there a certain age that we teach that in school? Do we say that that's up to the parents? I mean, I'm not 100% sure. I look back in my sex history and education and we just watched Remember the Titans and, like coach Carter, on repeat.
Speaker 2:Oh man. Okay, so you know. Balance here, I agree, there has to be a balance. Right, and at some point yes, like the student is going to take a human biology course at some point in their state funded education, meaning that some point they are going to have to talk about human reproduction at its very basic biological standards. All right, this is where it becomes the murky waters. Right, because then it becomes well, this leads to this and this and this because we also. While we're on this topic, why don't we just go ahead and throw sex ed in the mix of it?
Speaker 3:right, Just for the hell of it. And then comes in the question what is a woman?
Speaker 2:And then let's know no, see, I'm thinking of the education we went through. It was also. While we're on this topic, let's throw in the miracle child birth. Let's have the entire class watch a live birth multiple times, right? Let's just throw that in the mix of it all and a lot of parents thought that that was a lot, too much, too fast. And again now we get into the argument of was it at that age, with all these teens that were going through puberty, was that the incorrect time to have this kind of educational standpoint?
Speaker 3:Well then you get into the etymology of certain words as well, like think about it. Like, for example, like all of man, whenever we talk about man and mankind, it's referring to all people, right? A woman is called a woman because it's the man with the womb right, and so that's the woman, right? I mean, I believe that that's the correct, proper terminology of where that actually stems from.
Speaker 2:I have no idea. If I said something, I'd be bullshitting you. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4:I think we talked about this on the last podcast I had. But man comes from the word manus, which means mind. So it's really anyone with a mind is what the word man is trying to represent.
Speaker 3:Right, right, and so it's. You know, you got certain political people and even preachers. You've seen that one preacher who was like you know, it shouldn't be a man, it should be a man and a woman, like whenever you talk about amen and it's like, bro, you're a religious teacher.
Speaker 4:That's even a completely different. That comes from Amin, which, honestly, if you want to go down into a religious rabbit hole, that gets a little bit dark if you ever want to look up the history of that. But sorry to interrupt you but, that's not even in retrospect to men as a physical people.
Speaker 2:I agree. That's another example, though, of somebody taking it and trying to spin it to make a little quick turn of phrase like look how clever I am, like dude, all right, that's, that's literally brownie points brownie points for your special edition of copy and pasting out of the good book.
Speaker 3:But no, I do believe that the scrambling of the minds, or the men, or the amen, right, the scrambling of those young minds, and it starts at a very early age and you're seeing that happen a lot nowadays, so much so to where the? You know, like you said earlier, that they don't even want the parents helping the kids with homework. No, I'm not going to lie, I will be the first in line If my kid is like, no, I don't need homework. I'm like hell, yes, finally, you can handle it on your own, I don't need to sit down with you. That's great, you know, because, like I said earlier, like a lot of the shit, I don't even. I was a C student in schools and I don't remember most of that shit. I'm like, how long ago did I graduate? Like 15 years ago I graduated, and so I don't remember a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3:But we can do our best. But you know, the thing is, is that a lot of what they're trying to get to is that they're basically trying to make the teachers more of the safe space. You know, like it's okay if you want to express your sexual orientation to your teacher, you can tell me, but you know, just don't tell your parents about it. And so they're really trying to almost take control of the of our kids in a certain way, and that is the scary part. That's the scary part whenever the parents aren't even allowed to, you know, try and express our beliefs on our kid.
Speaker 3:They're dude, that is. That is our kids. We should be able to, you know, teach them the right and the wrong and all that kind of stuff, but it almost seems just like a bit of an outreach by I'm not going to blame it on the teachers. The teachers are only told what they're are only doing what they're told. But it's the system in which, you know, everything is being brought up that is just becoming very perverted and and and and it's, and it's not good.
Speaker 2:Yes and no to that. Yes and no to that. The teachers do have to teach their curriculum, confirmed. They do not have to teach it in certain ways. But you have tons of examples of teachers that are leaning into this new idea, the ideology, and trying to seem super progressive and seem like they're one of the cool teachers. They're like doubling down into it to where like yeah, they didn't have to present it in this superly charged way, but they're going to do it anyway. And those are the cases where I think the parents are really losing their minds. If we have a a biology class, it's learning about human reproduction, like actually true to form, human reproduction. Most parents are not going to get upset about this. They may get upset that the kids learning it at that age, but then it's like all right. If your kid has gotten to teenage years and you haven't had the talk with them as a parent, it's time Like I'm just throwing it out. If the school has gotten to them before you've had that talk, that's on you, big dog.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's very new. Again, this goes back to the nuance of that conversation right Of like, right when is the right time, and that's super, kid by kid, case by case.
Speaker 2:not all kids mature at the same rate as others and as a parent you should have that type of relationship and understanding with your kids to know when that time.
Speaker 3:We all hit puberty at different ages. Every kid is very different. Every, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But yeah, not to harp too much on the educational part. I know you want to get to a lot of different places.
Speaker 4:Well, there was, but there was also a really important thing that a string of conversation there which was about language, Absolutely Right, you know, you brought up like what's a woman? And then we're having this conversation around what is man? When we say mankind, what are we talking about? You know, there has been. I think whenever I was last on your podcast, we even talked about Lucifer and how people equate Lucifer as being Satan, and they're not even the same thing If you look back at the history of the word. So the reason I bring this up is, within the culture war, there is very much a war on language at the same time, and you might think to yourself, well, why does that matter? Or what's the importance of that? Or is that actually being done on purpose and at some level? The answer is yes, Because what happens is, if we can't even agree upon the foundation of words that we're using, you create confusion.
Speaker 4:If you're confused, then you live in a state of fear. If you live in a state of fear, this is where, if you want to talk about Satan, you want to talk about evil. This is where you can come in and corrupt the mind. And if you're doing that at a young age. If you're confusing kids who don't understand the first of all, we don't even have the emotional intelligence in order to understand our own emotions and then you want to confuse them on top of that, this is where you can then in, penetrate and put your dogma in there, where you can put in or slip in the beliefs that you want them to believe and act out in the world, which has been under a guise of kindness and niceness, and we're doing this because we love everybody. But what's being turned on the back end is it's actually pure evil that we are seeing being forced upon kids.
Speaker 2:Couldn't agree more, dude. Emotional intelligence is something that is absolutely slept on in our culture, I would argue in Western culture. You know, in different countries and different subcultures have varying degrees of it. You know like, for instance, the Germans are not known to be like the most comforting of people, just on average on scale, because culturally they don't get down with that. But like, if you need a good kick in the ass to like get going, oh there, the group you go to they'll get you hyped to fuck up. You know what I mean. But different things. The German, you said, yeah, the Germans.
Speaker 3:I went to Germany. I fucking loved it. Over there, everybody says this Everybody.
Speaker 2:I've never heard of a bad review of the last few decades, Anyway, anyway. So my point is you're a McDonald's, it's sick. Yo, I did that in Paris. That's crazy. I don't even drink Heineken, but like I'm not getting a Big Mac without a Heineken if it's offered.
Speaker 3:I got me a C Hefeweisen over there. It was nice.
Speaker 2:Anyway, back to topic. That way, god damn me, I got so off I forgot what we were talking about. Emotional intelligence, yes, emotional intelligence, yes, and you know, I do in fact think that that should be more heavily stressed in our school system, our public education especially. But it's being done incorrectly. As of now, they are teaching children to how could I put this? Because I don't want to piss off a lot of people but at the same time also kind of don't care if I do. You know, speak your truth, you know.
Speaker 2:All right, I understand that we need to teach children a better way, right. Like if a kid hits you, maybe hitting them back immediately isn't the best move, right. And like we should teach kids to be able to stop, assess the situation, see what the best course of action is. Is getting the teacher the right course of action, or is this kid still actively hitting me? And like, telling them stop, please stop, is just not fucking working right now. Like we have to teach children how to do that. Combat sports, baby, yes, and okay, yes, I have always said this Ladies and gentlemen, put your children in some sort of combat sports where there is a live sparring component. That's all I'm asking, and it's all I'm asking, anyway that's why I love football as a kid.
Speaker 4:It gives you so much confidence and the first thing you realize is you don't want to be in the fight. So, first of all, if someone's trying to fight you, 99% chance that they don't actually know how to fight. But B, if you're in a situation where there's no escape route, then you have something to fall back on, whether it's MMA, whether it's Jiu Jitsu. And this is huge for emotional intelligence, because when you're put in an uncomfortable position, when someone's smashing you, when they're crushing you and you're all pissed off, you can't do anything about it because all you're going to do is keep getting smashed. And so it teaches you how to calm down that internal voice of I have to fight, I have to throw hands, and it's difficult, but it's very important understanding our body, understanding how we move, how we function. It's very difficult for kids, but the growth that I've seen within kids and the emotional intelligence that comes with it is tremendous.
Speaker 2:And foundationally it's necessary, because how many videos have you all seen? Just scrolling through X, I see so many videos of this shit, these altercations with these high school kids or middle school kids or whatever. One kid is obviously doesn't want to fight, trying to deescalate, and you got this one kid that's like here to throw hands, regardless of what gets said here right now, and this kid just starts wailing on the one who's calm and the calm kid is just like still standing there trying to calm him down as he's eating punch after punch after punch until he gets completely starched. And that's because, from a foundational level, when he was in kindergarten, we got told always stop and go get that teacher. And it's like no, no, no, no sometimes, yes, sometimes that is the correct course of action. Sometimes you need to know that you need to buckle up.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying and yeah, and this, this, this anti bullying. Now I'm not going to lie, bro, like bullying should not be a thing. But let's just be honest. We're dealing with kids here. There's going to be kids that don't really understand that, and I don't know if you're ever really going to expel bullying. I mean, dude, look at it as grownups we do it all the time. Look at in the news. They're constantly bullying one side of the other. So so to say that you know bullying is something that should be expelled, well, how about, instead of saying you shouldn't bully, teach kids on de escalation techniques, on how to you know de escalate?
Speaker 2:the bullying.
Speaker 3:and if and if you can't de escalate it by using your words and talking to the person, then you say, all right, well, I'm, I know how to defend myself if it goes a little bit farther than it should. And then if you implement something in schools such as jiu-jitsu let's just be honest, gym classes a fucking joke, I mean. I remember playing dodgeball, like anybody who has ever played dodgeball. It's fun as hell. But what exactly did it teach you? What do you didn't want to get beamed in the face with a ball, like you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge ball. It doesn't teach you anything.
Speaker 3:So if you can learn something whether it be any kind of combat sport, if it's, if it's wrestling or jiu-jitsu, or football or hockey or anything like this that you know you're, you're constantly taking, you know some kind of body blow, you know what it's like to get hit, and a lot of you know there's a lot of kids out there that are scared to take a hit and so they succumb to the bullying. But once you find out that it's like, you know you're not made out of glass, yeah. Once you find out that, yeah, you're, you're not made out of glass and you and you can't take a hit. Well, now you, you're, you're really releasing a lot of that fear that you have.
Speaker 2:Then you find out chicks, dig scars and you're like hold on now. Okay, there's there's a method to this madness. What's up?
Speaker 4:No, but I mean, even to your point. I mean, I had a bully whenever I was in high school and to your point it almost it invigorates the bully. Whenever you are, you have this like pacifist role of a sort you know. Okay, like I'm going to ignore it. I'm going to ignore it. That ignites the bully even more, because and this was really fascinating, as it got to a point where I eventually had to like stand up for myself and I we ended up getting into a physical altercation. We both got this or he got, we both got suspended for it, and I'll never forget this and this blew my mind. The next day in school, I walked by him and he was like Clayton, like what's going on? We're getting suspended for like what happened the other day, and I was dumbfounded. I was like, yeah, you like in my mind, I'm like, yeah, you bullied me and he's he's sitting there and he's just so confused by it. And then he says I don't understand, because we were just having fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that bullies don't understand that they are taking joy and someone else's torment. They don't understand that, like not everybody's on the joke.
Speaker 4:Well and it also seems like it's almost a rite of passage. I mean, how many times have and I'm not condoning bullying by any stretch of the imagination, I want to be very crystal clear about that but it seems to me as though in our today's society there is no rite of passage of becoming a man. There's tribes that will send their kids at the age of like 10 out into the woods until they have to live out there for five, six, seven days, and then they'll come back. And the point of this is that understanding your body, understanding the physical capabilities of it, can be a rite of passage, and so that instills the confidence in you to know what, what abilities you have within yourself. It teaches you that primal instinct, that primal emotion that lives within all of us.
Speaker 1:So I hope you guys enjoyed part one and learned a little bit something more about me. I feel like it's always an interesting dynamic whenever other people are interviewing me. I feel like it's a different perspective that you don't usually see about your favorite podcast hosts, whether it's me or somebody else. But hopefully you learned something new and hopefully you're also excited for the second part in this series, or this episode, which will drop on Thursday. And if you didn't enjoy it, if you never want to hear my voice again, that's also totally cool. But I know for sure that you'll hear my voice again when we see each other in the sixth dimension.