T2C :: Traveling to Consciousness with Clayton Cuteri

Odyssey #025: Teal Cooper - Being Raised By A Spiritual Parent | Ep 47

March 07, 2022 Teal Cooper
T2C :: Traveling to Consciousness with Clayton Cuteri
Odyssey #025: Teal Cooper - Being Raised By A Spiritual Parent | Ep 47
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About Teal
After starting her own coffee business in college, Teal has pursued this passion with her brother. Together, they battled the hardship of COVID and came out stronger on the other side! Teal also has her own podcast called Real with Teal where she talks to people about spirituality and consciousness.

Clayton's Notes
I love the energy that Teal brings to the podcast. We go into her past and see how Teal was meant to become a podcaster all along! We also discuss interesting ideas about how you think and conduct yourself when hosting someone on your podcast, versus being on their podcast. It's a fascinating conversation. We discuss how she never fully had a drive towards one thing. We also dive into some culture shifts that we believe would be best for everyone.

Teal's Links
Coffee Business: www.VendiBean.com
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-with-teal/id1590680324
IG: https://www.instagram.com/teal.cooper/

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[clayton_cuteri]:

What is up, Conscious of Monkeys? Welcome to another episode of Traveling to

[teal_cooper]:

What is up? Conscious? A monkey is welcome to another episode of Traveling to

[clayton_cuteri]:

consciousness on your host, Colling K. Try on this episode. We are sitting

[teal_cooper]:

consciousness, Um, your host collinicutary. On this episode we are sitting down

[clayton_cuteri]:

down with one of the realist.

[teal_cooper]:

with one of the realist.

[clayton_cuteri]:

She has your own coffee business. She has her own podcast which mergeers

[teal_cooper]:

She has her own coffee business. She has her own podcast which mergeers kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

kind of consciousness, fulfilment and success, Kind of. I guess what we're

[teal_cooper]:

consciousness, fulfilment and success, kind of. I guess what we're doing here,

[clayton_cuteri]:

doing here, but I'm sure she has our own little spin on it. But while we're

[teal_cooper]:

but I'm sure she does our little spin on it, but while we're here conscious

[clayton_cuteri]:

here conscious monkeys, welcome to the show Teal Cooper, Deal than for being

[teal_cooper]:

monkeys, welcome to the show to Cooper, Do you Cy. in thank you. I'm super

[clayton_cuteri]:

here.

[teal_cooper]:

puumed to be here.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I'm happy to have y.

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I'm happy to have you. They're excited. Yeah, I mean so first of all like, I guess we can start with They're excited. Yeah, I mean so first of all like, I guess we can start with

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, so yeah, I mean so first of all like, I guess we can start with the podcast. Like. Was that a good way to kind of summarize it? That was the way

[teal_cooper]:

the podcast. Like. Was that a good way to kind of summarize it? I was Yeah, the podcast. Like. Was that a good way to kind of summarize it? I was Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I kind of pulled out

[teal_cooper]:

pulled out. No, I think it's very much aligned with yours with. Um, you know, pulled out. No, I think it's very much aligned with yours with. Um, you know, travelling and consciousness. It's just kind of. travelling and consciousness. It's just kind of. I guess Um, warped into the world of entrepreneurship in the sense of more of like, How can we live our most su filling lives and really just step into a higher state of consciousness and become an enlightment in order to do that

[clayton_cuteri]:

it upon my initial research. I seemed like it was kind of like in the more

[teal_cooper]:

It. Upon my initial research, it seemed like it was kind of like a more

[clayton_cuteri]:

entrepreneurial space, but I hesitated whenever I was putting together the

[teal_cooper]:

entrepreneurial space, but I hesitated whenever I was, but here's the thing. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

inra.

[teal_cooper]:

got sure that was my niche going into it, but I'm open to it, kind of finding its place like that's just what I'm interested in right now, but I'm also interested in spirituality and relationships and like psychology. so it's like I don't wantnna narrow it down too small, and kind of just like it's more broad. All things to filment, Because that's what I'm like, the most passionate about is how can we find the filment and live our best life. I don't know if you can cuss on this or not

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, Yeah, go for it. Shi has Fck. We got them all. No censored, uncensored

[teal_cooper]:

go for it. this fuck. we got them all. No censored uncensored on Col. The whole

[clayton_cuteri]:

Un, cut the whole thing.

[teal_cooper]:

thing Okay,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, so it's actually a good lead into what my first question usually is.

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, so it's actually a good lead to what my first question usually is. And

[clayton_cuteri]:

And speaking of fulfiilment, what was the first thing that you kind of want

[teal_cooper]:

speaking of fulfiilment, what was the first thing that you kind of wanted to be

[clayton_cuteri]:

to be when you grew up And how did you maybe see that is possibly being

[teal_cooper]:

when you grew up And how did you maybe me see that' possibly being fulfilling

[clayton_cuteri]:

fulfilling in your life?

[teal_cooper]:

in your love? Yeah, like when I was growing up. I honestly can't remember thinking I want to be this or I want to be that like it. I wasn't the person who was like. I know, I want to be a doctor or I want to be a Um, lawyer. I had no idea, like, I really don't remember having any set, clear direction or goals And then I don't even remember the word entrepreneur being a thing growing up. Either both my parents were entrepreneurial, though, and had their own businesses, so I definitely had them to look up to as role models, but I guess the first time in my life that I found fulfillment like I had jobs and internships. But and I went to school and I never really felt passionate about anything until the idea for my company came about and I can totally go, and all of that too, But that was like the first time where I found like full whole body, consuming fulfilment and passion.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, how old were you when you started your company?

[teal_cooper]:

Well, how old were you when you started your? Ah, So that happened my junior year of college, and then we launched at my senior year, So I

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well,

[teal_cooper]:

was twenty, one, twenty two.

[clayton_cuteri]:

so okay, so let's let's wind it back to your like ten or twelve. Let's start

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, so it was one to Bu. Like ten or twelve. Okay, So a littleer Yeah, like

[clayton_cuteri]:

a little bit earlier.

[teal_cooper]:

honestly, ten or twelve. I'm like. I'm trying to think like I was just super free spirited like I loved people I loved making friends. I don't remember thinking like I want to be, Um, a certain career path like. I really don't remember that and I just I remember going growing up and I I loved, um, like I was just extremely social and like, I was very curious about people and I was also a really big like day, dreamreamer, And I remember like staring at the ceiling and pretending that we were walking backwards for hours, like I would do weird things like that.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I

[teal_cooper]:

I

[clayton_cuteri]:

mean, it sounds to me like you are checking off all the boxes of a podcast

[teal_cooper]:

drinkking off all the boxes of a podcasos, perfect,

[clayton_cuteri]:

host. So you got a bright future there,

[teal_cooper]:

Amazing,

[clayton_cuteri]:

but I'm to kind of push you to the fire a little bit more. So was there

[teal_cooper]:

But to push the a little bit more so, was it like? Did your parents like? Never

[clayton_cuteri]:

like? did your parents like? Never ask you what you want to be, Or was that

[teal_cooper]:

ask you what you wanted to be, or was that question never proposed to you? My

[clayton_cuteri]:

question ever proposed to you?

[teal_cooper]:

parents were always like you could be anything you want to be, as long as put your head your mind to it, like the, the world is your oyster, The sky is the limit. They always Um, encouraged me to think big, which I love, and I'm so grateful that I had that mindset growing up instilled in me. Um, but no, like for two seconds, Maybe I thought I wanted to be. Um. Actually, Okay, No, I wanted to be on Disney Channel.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay? there you.

[teal_cooper]:

I wanted to be like, Um, mildly Cyrus, Like That was what I wanted to do when I was like ten years old and I actually like would go on auditions and Um did dance class like I. My only thing I ever caught was a Healy's commercial in high.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, hell, yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

I think I was in middle school or high school. I don't even know. And so I was really like. That's what I was into and that's what I thought I wanted to be. But that was like a phase. It wasn't a long term. I grew out of it

[clayton_cuteri]:

I think I'm going to count it.

[teal_cooper]:

like I'm go to count it. Okay, perfect. I'm glad I remember that

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm going to count it, but that's hilarious and it's funny. You say. uh, miy, sirs, be cause. I

[teal_cooper]:

with the soler, So that's funny. You say. Uh mar starscause. I remember. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

remember. I don't know if I was like in Lo. I mean, Disney was, so you know

[teal_cooper]:

don't know if I was like in Lo. I mean Disney was. So you know, Magnifon. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

magnifying. I think as a kid, but I remember hand Montana being on the T. V

[teal_cooper]:

think I was a kid, but I remember hand mot being able to be record a bit was

[clayton_cuteri]:

quite a bit. That was such a great show.

[teal_cooper]:

such a great show. Oh, I was obsessed with it. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

I don't know our age difference, but it like how do you know how old you you were when that show came out?

[clayton_cuteri]:

sh. no, I know I'm twenty seven right now.

[teal_cooper]:

Sh, no, I. no, I'm twenty seven, right, no. Oh, that's how all I am. Okay,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I got

[teal_cooper]:

so yeah, um, we were like I was at that age where it was. It made sense for me to Wa to be her when that show came out.

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're like this chick is.

[teal_cooper]:

You like those Tris. I was osessed. Did you want to be her or did I just't want to like Live a life likeer

[clayton_cuteri]:

Did you? did you want to be her or did you want to like live a life like her?

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I mean, like I. I thought it would be the coolest thing on earth to be her Like acting in that show in Hanna Montana.

[clayton_cuteri]:

You like that polarity of having, like the The secret life? I guess like

[teal_cooper]:

You like the polarity of having, like the The secret life. I like having the

[clayton_cuteri]:

having the the life of a star and then also having like that normal life.

[teal_cooper]:

the life of a store and then also having like that normal life for sure, And I just thought. Um, like I resonated with the show. I like related to a. It made a lot of sense. You know

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that's cool. so so the ceiling's commercial.

[teal_cooper]:

that's cool. So so the Feelings commercial, Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Are we able to?

[teal_cooper]:

Healli commercial. My, my big Break

[clayton_cuteri]:

Were we able to find it?

[teal_cooper]:

were able to find it. Oh yeah. it's on you too. I can show it to you after that. Okay, yeah, I'm going a throw down the description. Oh my

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay? oh, okay, yeah, ohll, yeah. I'm going to throw down the description below.

[teal_cooper]:

God, I'm in it for two seconds. It's literally like a span out of a park. I plop in the healings and then I heal you away.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It looked pretty bad ass.

[teal_cooper]:

Oh it look prettyous. I thought it was so cool at the time and I got paid like a thousand dollars for it, which was

[clayton_cuteri]:

damn

[teal_cooper]:

a lot of money. I like being so young. I was like, Oh my god, I'm I'm rich, but after that that was like my big break and that was it. I was done.

[clayton_cuteri]:

well. I mean heal. like had a huge phase like back when we were kids, too. I

[teal_cooper]:

W. I mean, hell, usually like, had a huge phase like back when we were kids,

[clayton_cuteri]:

remember. it was like the thing like there was like a whole school rule that

[teal_cooper]:

too. I remember. it was like the thing like there was like a whole school rule

[clayton_cuteri]:

you couldn't wear Healys, because people are like getting injured with them.

[teal_cooper]:

that you couldn't wear hues 'cause people were really get being injured with them. Yeah, No, I loved them.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, so you're pretty much like the transetter. I guess

[teal_cooper]:

so we' pretty much like the tutter. Yeah, you can you can say that

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, with that next your title as well.

[teal_cooper]:

Look what good next of your titals? well, perfect. Hey's friends that are.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, so what was it like trying out for all these different auditions?

[teal_cooper]:

Well, So what was it like trying out for all these different auditions? Like

[clayton_cuteri]:

Like? were you um, like and I guess also how long was this too?

[teal_cooper]:

were you um, like? and I guess also, how long was this too? Like? How long was the phase of this part of my life?

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

Um, I would say, probably like two years, maybe like two to three years. And I actually did. I went to acting class too, like. I'm remembering all this stuff now about my life for bringing it up. I, I actually couldn't remember growing up, but um, I loved it like I loved. I was. I got super nervous and it definitely put me out of my comfort. zone. and at a young age it taught me a lot about projection, which I'm now realizing all of this, which I never thought about before. But it kind of sets you up for Um, getting thicker skin for when you're older and doing sales like I eventually did. And it, you know you'd learn a lot about projection and disappointment and not taking things to Um personally, 'cause the end of day they're looking for an exact look and an exact pr like Um, type, And you have to match that type. It has nothing against you, Um, but yeah, no, I. I remember the Healy's one Like I felt it after I was. like I got that like. I just felt it click. And I was like that was the first time where it actually like felt like I, um, like get matched. you know, like it. it was a. It was aligned. you know, I felt like I actually like nailed it. But the other ones I could just sense like Yeah, that was off or that was really bad. And basically that you would um go in with a few other kids and they'd had the camera on you. They'd ask you questions or have a script, and you would like repeat the script back and then you'd get call backacks and there'd be like x amount of callbcks until you actually get the the job

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm curious about how you describe that like alignment. You said you did a

[teal_cooper]:

I'm curious with about how you describe the like alignment. You said you did a

[clayton_cuteri]:

couple and they always felt like kind of off. But then this one just felt

[teal_cooper]:

couple and they always feel like kind of off. But then this one just felt like

[clayton_cuteri]:

like you knew right away,

[teal_cooper]:

you, new road war. Yeah, you can just feel like the energy in the room. I think even at that age I could pick up on. Okay. They really liked me. Okay. I was actually really not surely good at that. I wasn't forcing it. It felt um like the whole. The whole thing just felt like energetically aligned. Whereas a lot of other times I would do it and it'd be like forced. or um, you know, you can just feel it feeling off after

[clayton_cuteri]:

almost like Were they for rolls that didn't along with like who you were?

[teal_cooper]:

almost Lily. For rules, the general one with like who you were. Yeah, there'd be stupid things, though, Like a a toy, I was young, so it'd be like a Nickelodeon T V commercial for some doll, you know, or like. Um, Yeah, like I really can't remember what they were. But the Healys were was the first thing I actually like liked them 'cause I would use them. I loved heliyes growing up so kind of like somewhat of a tomboy. and so, um, yeah, I just made sense. I guess

[clayton_cuteri]:

You were just like a product fit for it.

[teal_cooper]:

it were just like a product foot for Yeah, it's It's interesting because I in

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's interesting because I, in my mind of making a relation with um, uh,

[teal_cooper]:

my mind of making a relation with um,

[clayton_cuteri]:

jim, and Pam from the office. They, they talk about how whenever they

[teal_cooper]:

uh, jim, and pom from the office like they talk about how whenever they

[clayton_cuteri]:

auditioned, Uh, the other one was like you were perfect for that role. Like

[teal_cooper]:

auditioned, Uh, the other one was like you were perfect for that role Like

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're going to get it. You know what I mean, and the other one like, They

[teal_cooper]:

you're goingnna go to. you know what I mean, and the other one Like they both

[clayton_cuteri]:

both said that about each other, And so I was curious. If like that

[teal_cooper]:

said that about each other, and so I was curious of like that alignment that

[clayton_cuteri]:

alignment that you felt kind of with that Heli', commercial was kind of just

[teal_cooper]:

you felt kind of with Hehy's commercial was kind of just like. Uh, oh, like

[clayton_cuteri]:

like. Uh, oh, this is it this? That one

[teal_cooper]:

this. is it? This is that one? Yeah, that's interesting. No, I didn't feel ittil after the fact, Though, like going into, I had no idea, and then after and actually my brother came with me for that one and I dragged him along and he wasn't into this at all, And I remember. Um, that made me feel more comfortable too, having him being there. Um. see, it was funny.

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's interesting And then what happened with the? Uh? The commercial

[teal_cooper]:

that's interesting. And then what happened with the Uh? The commercial career

[clayton_cuteri]:

career? After that? Was it just nothing?

[teal_cooper]:

After the? Was it just that was the end of the phase? I think I just I was after that I was getting into high school and I just grew out of it. I was like this isn't for me anymore, and that was fine while it lasted. And then um, Yeah, it wasn't until I mean in high school. I felt like I wasn't even like I wasn't that into school and I don't think I had another passion. Really, until Um. Anddy mean, really.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay? So then said then with it like Exit right on. Was there something that

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, So then so then with a like exit right on? was there something that

[clayton_cuteri]:

happened or did you? just one day you were like My heart's not in this

[teal_cooper]:

happened or did you just wonder to you were like My heart's not in this

[clayton_cuteri]:

anymore.

[teal_cooper]:

anymore. Yeah, I think that's what it was and I think I was, also, you know, probably not wanting to admit at the time, but I was like a. There was a lot of uh discouragement where I was like you know, it took so long to get this one gig. And like it's a lot of effort and energy and I don't think I felt like, Um, passionate enough about it to put energy into it. Well, also starting a whole new school with people. I, No, and there's just a lot going on different chapter of life. you know.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that sounds like a lot of

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, that sounds like a lot of.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I guess pressure, but a lot of change to put on? You know someone that's

[teal_cooper]:

I guess pressure, but a lot of change to put on. You know someone that's

[clayton_cuteri]:

younger. And then, so you're saying you change schools? Was that like? did

[teal_cooper]:

younger and then so you're saying to change schools? Was it like did you guys

[clayton_cuteri]:

you guys move or was it like a different middle schooled to high school

[teal_cooper]:

move or was it like a different middle school to high school? Suchh, No, I said

[clayton_cuteri]:

situation?

[teal_cooper]:

it was middle school to high school, But Um, the high school I went to was like a different one than what my middle school could transition into, So I went to just this different high school. Um, and my brother actually already went there. First. He was younger, but in middle school. So I was going in into ninth grade and it was pretty normal because in ninth grade there's a lot of different schools that kind of clump together that. there' more like multiple new people. not just me as a lot. but yeah, I mean, I didn't know. I think I knew one person.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh wow, damn. that's everyone else went to the other school.

[teal_cooper]:

Oh wow. Yeah, then that's everyone else wants to the other school For the most part. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

You just had to be an outcast. I guess

[teal_cooper]:

it just had to be an outcast. I go. Yeah, I guess so,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's that bad as Healy's nature coming in.

[teal_cooper]:

but but uh, hell uses nature coming in. Yeah, I don't even know if anyone knew about that too. I was like. I don't remember if I was like embarrassed or if I was proud of it. I honestly like. I'm actually concerned about how my memories right now fading away.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, for the sounds of it you, you must have blocked that out for quite

[teal_cooper]:

I mean, for the soundels of it you, you must have blocked that up for quite

[clayton_cuteri]:

some time, then,

[teal_cooper]:

some time, though I probably

[clayton_cuteri]:

uh,

[teal_cooper]:

serficing now. serficing now.

[clayton_cuteri]:

we'll have to go back and look at the commercial. Maybe there's some uh

[teal_cooper]:

we'll have to go back and look at the commercial. Maybe there' some uh

[clayton_cuteri]:

indicators there as to why it got blocked out.

[teal_cooper]:

indicators there as to why got blocked out. It's really not bad like I don't think that's you barely see me in it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, well, we'll table that we'll come back to it.

[teal_cooper]:

We'll we'll tapele that. Okay, we'll come back to it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um, so then I think it blanked out a little bit talking about memory. Uh,

[teal_cooper]:

Um. so then I think it blinked out a little bit of talking about memory. Uh,

[clayton_cuteri]:

but what was it that you said you? What was the next thing? You found your

[teal_cooper]:

but what was it that you said you? What was the next thing? You found your

[clayton_cuteri]:

passion? and once you kind of got to high school you, you kind of got

[teal_cooper]:

passion? and once you kind of go to high school you, you kind of got situated

[clayton_cuteri]:

situated in where you were at? You started making some new friends. I'm

[teal_cooper]:

in where you were? Uh, you started making some new friends. I'm assuming Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

assuming, Was there this another thing I like aligned with you At this point.

[teal_cooper]:

Was there this another thing that like aligned with you point in high school?

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, um, for me in high school it was. you know. I loved making new friends. I loved the social aspect school. I don't remember there being one thing in school that I felt passionate about to be honest. Like I never felt like school came easy for me. I was diagnosed with a d. h. D in high school. Um, so I was in distraction in my classes and all my teachers complained because I was constantly talking to people And so um, my parents ended up medicating me and then I like went into this dark wholele of like not feeling myself for a amount of time on this medication and ended up stopping like stopped taking it, because I hated the way it made me feel, But Um, I was like a pretty naturally happy person and I loved like. Yeah, I loved being at school. Just the actual um, uh, classes and what we were learning. It just nothing stuck out to me like I don't remember being super passionate about anything in particular.

[clayton_cuteri]:

do you think there was and I like discussing dark holes? So if if I hit a

[teal_cooper]:

Do you think there was? I like discussing dorols, So if I could have spoiled,

[clayton_cuteri]:

spot, just feel free to push back.

[teal_cooper]:

just feel free to push book.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you think there was any correlation with you going on this medication?

[teal_cooper]:

Do you think there was any correlation with you going on Thismo educationation

[clayton_cuteri]:

And

[teal_cooper]:

And

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, maybe I should phrase it a little differently.

[teal_cooper]:

well, maybe we should freeze it a little differently. W. It sounded like you kind of like went into a door call? You would. So, and

[clayton_cuteri]:

You sounded like you, kind of like went into a dark hole? You said so, and you said there was nothing like really happy oring, Do you feel like there

[teal_cooper]:

you said there was nothing like really hard you forfilling. Do you? do you feel

[clayton_cuteri]:

was a correlation between taking? Uh, you know prescription, I guess adol or

[teal_cooper]:

like there was a correlation between taking a you know prescription? I guess at a roll or anything like that? To be honest, I was like I was still happy and I,

[clayton_cuteri]:

anything like that.

[teal_cooper]:

it was honestly short lived, this dark wholele medication because I realized pretty quickly that I hated the way it made me feel, And um, I would. Just my parents thought I was taking it and I stopped taking it and I just wouldn't take it anymore because I didn't like the effects of it. but and then eventually they stopped making me take it. But um, like I was a pretty happy person in high school and like I was like always smiling, fun, loving high energy. Uh, very similar to who I am today, but I don't okay. I don't think it correlated with Um, the passion like I still. I got like a B and Cs in school like I wasn't like failing out of anything. I did. Um, cheerleading for a little bit. It soccer for a little bit like I was involved in a sense, but more for like the social aspects, I wasn't like really good at sports or anything. I wasn't super passionate about sports. Um, I don't know. I don't think I found my passion untilil later

[clayton_cuteri]:

You' kind of just enjoying making new friends try.

[teal_cooper]:

you were gonna just enjoy. Yeah, it was just I was learning things, figureging out what I liked and I didn't like. I think high school is such a time of exploration of like who you are and you're It's the beginning. It's like you don't even know who you are yet you're starting to discover. I mean, I think that's a great way to do it too. It's like well, especially if I mean, I think that's a great way to do it too. It's like well, especially if

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, I think that's a great way to do it, too. It's like well, especially if you don't know what you want to do or what you enjoy doing. Like the

[teal_cooper]:

you don't know what you want to do or what you enjoy doing. Like the answer to you don't know what you want to do or what you enjoy doing. Like the answer to

[clayton_cuteri]:

answer. That is almost that you need to try everything.

[teal_cooper]:

that is almost. But you need to try everything that is almost. But you need to try everything totally and like the idea going into college and you have to pick a major before you go into college and baffles me.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's pretty crazy.

[teal_cooper]:

You know, I think that's insane. You're asking like eighteen year olds what they think they want to be for the like the rest of their life.

[clayton_cuteri]:

my sister says the same thing

[teal_cooper]:

My sister says the same thing. It's nuts,

[clayton_cuteri]:

she. She always talks about how she uh wish she had like a a leap year, or

[teal_cooper]:

she. She always talks about how she uh, wish you had like a a leaper or like

[clayton_cuteri]:

like she had like a day a year off where she could kind of just like

[teal_cooper]:

she had like a a year off. Or she could have kind of just like reevaluate with

[clayton_cuteri]:

reevaluate everything and try different stuff.

[teal_cooper]:

everything and try a different stuff So smart. I think that's a great idea'. Try to make that a part of the culture. I agree.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, there'. trying to make that a part of the culture. Let's start setting that cultural standard.

[teal_cooper]:

I start starting about a cultural standard. Yeah, For sure.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So then so first of all, where where did you grow up? What? What part of

[teal_cooper]:

So then so, first of all, where where did you grow up with? Yeah, I was in Dallas, Texas. Um,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay?

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, and my parents kind of plpped there. Because my mom's from Los Angeles. My dad South African and immigrated to l. A. So they moved to Dallas before I was born. For my dad's work. He was in real estate and so I grew up going California all the time, and so I end up going to college at San Digo State. And uh, I was like the only person in my high school to leave to go to California like everyone called me this like liberal hippie for you, And I was like you guys don't even know. Have fun rotting in Texas. Just kidding, but I mean, I love Texas, but I will never move back. I. I, I love the ocean and I can't imagine my life without it. But and my parents want to move out here too, But they built a life you know in Dallas and it's been great for them, so yeah, I'm currently in San Diego.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Tell me to get a beach house.

[teal_cooper]:

told me to go the beachos. I know they're working on it,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

so

[clayton_cuteri]:

just seem to manifest a little bit harder.

[teal_cooper]:

just seem to manifest a little bit harder. Yeah, exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, San Diego is a the hell of a place to be like. there's really

[teal_cooper]:

I mean, San Diego is a the hell of a place to be like. there's really nowhere

[clayton_cuteri]:

nowhere else in the world like it.

[teal_cooper]:

else in the world where I go. Oh my God, I'm obsessed with it like

[clayton_cuteri]:

I know

[teal_cooper]:

I know it's the best.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm going to be back, so I'll Yeah.

[teal_cooper]:

I'm going to be bucks, so okay, Yeah, let me now.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, I'm coming across. actually, so I'll be there. What is that? March

[teal_cooper]:

Well, I'm coming to Acrosso, Actually, so I'll be there. Oh my god that march

[clayton_cuteri]:

three to eight.

[teal_cooper]:

the first week in of March. I'm gone that weekend, actually for a wedding in Dallas,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, wasn't my to be?

[teal_cooper]:

But you used to live in San Diego.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, for four years, three, four, four years, four years. Yeah, yeah, I

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, for four years, Okay, four, yeah, four years. Yeah, yeah, love. I call me

[clayton_cuteri]:

love it. I, I'll be back eventually. I think I'm on that travel thing right

[teal_cooper]:

back. Eventually, I came ' on the travel thing right now where I' just got to

[clayton_cuteri]:

now where I just got to keep traveling around and then we'll find a way back

[teal_cooper]:

keep traveling around and man will find a way back for sure. That makes sense,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and manifest some uh, pretty cool trips coming up. So

[teal_cooper]:

so matter off some uh, pretty cool trips coming up so amazing That's exciting. I am Ex. I'm excited about it. Um. but before we keep talking about

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, I am Exci. I'm excited about it. Um. But before we keep talking about what I'm excited about, I'm interested in hearing what you were excited

[teal_cooper]:

what I'm excited about. I'm interested in hearing what you were excited about

[clayton_cuteri]:

about when you went to college in San Diego. you know a mixture of you know.

[teal_cooper]:

when you went to college in San Diego. you know, a mixture of. you know? what

[clayton_cuteri]:

what did you pick And was San Diego this hiber liberal hippie place that

[teal_cooper]:

did you pi? And was San Diego this hiber liberal hippie place that Texas

[clayton_cuteri]:

Texas thought it was.

[teal_cooper]:

thought it was? Yeah, No, not at all and I think I was. Um. I fit in Wayymore in San Diego than I did in Dallas. Like I stuck out kind of like a sore thumb. I like the school I went to Atl. A. It was really Um, conservative and most people there had like their roots in Texas, so I just didn't really fit in. Not well, to be honest, but yeah, no, when I went to San Diego, I was like this is my place. These are my people. I like, Um, connected really fast with a lot of my best friends who are so of my closest friends today. Um, and yeah, I went in and I'm we. Some of my friends who I initially met had older siblings there, and they were like, Yeah, this major is the broadest, So you can you can pick this and you'll figure it out later and there's a lot of different options, so I ended up picking that one and it was called Journalism. media studies So you can pick between. like it kind of branched out into like marketing, P, r, um, advertising, And that's the realm of like the major that I chose. Um, but yeah, I, I was. I like took all the classes at all the things, and I, I still was like nothing's really sticking out to me Like classes in itself, for me, was never a place where I felt like I really learned information. like I learned from doing, and like in being in the real world, of, like, internships or experiences, or Um, you know, like I, I have friends who are kind. like. Yeah, I remember this one time I learned this in this class. I'm like. How do you remember that? Like I don't remember anything I learned in school. To be honest,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, Maybe we didn' need to check out your memory.

[teal_cooper]:

maybe we' got your memory. But like I don't know, it's just nothing stuck out to me in school and I don't know. I think that it seems more common than I think. Like I talked to a lot of people and I don't know. Maybe that's just San nego stateating education. Who knows?

[clayton_cuteri]:

I do want to point out real quick before we get too far away. Uh, whenever

[teal_cooper]:

I do want to point out real quick before we go too forward. Uh, whenever you

[clayton_cuteri]:

you said these are my people. I want everyone listening to know that like

[teal_cooper]:

said these aremo people or one, everyone listening to know they like to go like

[clayton_cuteri]:

Ti, got like in the microphone to say that, so I don't know if that came

[teal_cooper]:

in the microphone To say those. So I don't know if that came through. but you,

[clayton_cuteri]:

through. but like you, you got aggressively close to your mike. Whenever you

[teal_cooper]:

you go to grocesly close to your Mar. Whenever you said, Oh, I did. you were

[clayton_cuteri]:

said that you like these are my people. I was like. Oh dan.

[teal_cooper]:

like. These are more people. That's so funny. I need not do that. It's like so loud. Oh, I love it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, I loved it. I thought it was good energy

[teal_cooper]:

Go so good. It's like a rout song.

[clayton_cuteri]:

interest to see a that Ups. There's my people in San Diego.

[teal_cooper]:

people said, I love it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh,

[teal_cooper]:

Oh,

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's cool. So you took like a. You found like a kind of a general course.

[teal_cooper]:

that's cool. So you took like a. You found like a kind of a general course Like

[clayton_cuteri]:

I guess, but it like.

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, I was like a general broad major all encompassing on like marketing, media studies, P. R, advertising communications and I enjoyed it. You know, like I, I met a lot of people through classes, and Um, they did Greek life first two years, and then I dropped out 'cause I was like I don't really need this anymore. I thought my friends and I had the best college experience Like Guy truly loved it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's so hard to not love it.

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's so hard to not love it. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Wh What did you say You went to U, S, T, S. U. S. D. S. Is that the one in

[teal_cooper]:

Wh, would did you say you went to U, S. D, S. S. C. S. C. O. Yeah, that is that

[clayton_cuteri]:

Theoya?

[teal_cooper]:

the one on the oil. No, that's the one. Um, I don't even know how to describe. It's like college. It's like on the eighties, Um,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay, like east of Point Loma,

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, Like used to point Loma. No, I. I blank mission. What's how? how do you describe the area. Oh, my God, it's like you gone down the eighties pretty east and then it's Um.

[clayton_cuteri]:

just out there. Okay's south there.

[teal_cooper]:

I'm blinking. It's out there. Its. It's not in an area where you would go to if it weren't for that school.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay. gotcha Oh, it's like either, that stadium is where the Chargers used

[teal_cooper]:

Okay gota. Oh, it's like either. that stadium is where the Chargers used to

[clayton_cuteri]:

to play

[teal_cooper]:

play. Yeah, uhhuh. it's Nine Valley. No, No, no, no,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okaya, Mission Valley, Mission Valley. No, Well, this is probably really bad radio. If people don't listen, don't live

[teal_cooper]:

this is probably really about radio. People don't listen. Don't live in San

[clayton_cuteri]:

in San Diego.

[teal_cooper]:

Diego. Add it out. You'll add things out.

[clayton_cuteri]:

No, we don't add it.

[teal_cooper]:

No, we don't know it' like Okay, Ono, the Ne.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, uh, whatever people can fast for, we're going get into better stuff

[teal_cooper]:

whatever people confess, Well, we're going to into better stuff later. so

[clayton_cuteri]:

later. So um, I don't know. whatever

[teal_cooper]:

oh, I don't know. whatever. it doesn't matter.

[clayton_cuteri]:

doesn't matter. It's all happening as it shouldd. right.

[teal_cooper]:

it doesn't matter. It's all happening as a children. Yeah, exactly. let's keep moving along 'cause I want to get it to the spirit. Believe

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, let's keep moving along. because I want to get to the spir. Well, maybe it's a good checking spot. Have what would be whenever you' were in

[teal_cooper]:

it is a good checking spot. Yeahcause. what would be whenever you were in

[clayton_cuteri]:

college, or you know, whenever you were, maybe even in school. Give us like

[teal_cooper]:

college, Or you know, whenever you were maybe school? It was like a little bit

[clayton_cuteri]:

a littlet of a timeline of what you thought in those years about

[teal_cooper]:

of timeline of what you thought in those years about spirituality about me,

[clayton_cuteri]:

spirituality, about manifestation about crystals. Anything in that kind of

[teal_cooper]:

Station about crystals. Yeah, kind of Rome. So my mom. do you? did you? uh?

[clayton_cuteri]:

round,

[teal_cooper]:

watch the Secret the Do documentary?

[clayton_cuteri]:

I have. Not,

[teal_cooper]:

No, No, okay, so when that came out, Um, I was like probably ten. And my mom was obsessed with it, so I watched it with her a couple of times and I don't think it really fully. Um, like I grasped all the information at that age, but she raised me like instilling a lot of that in me Like law, attraction. Like we made vision boards together. I already kind of had that Um foundation, which was really awesome because I grew up with that mindset and didn't really know it, And I don't even remember really knowing like the W. The term law of attraction then, but as I learned it later on in life, I was like, Oh, okay, yeah, this is what my mom basically raised me on. And so I wouldn't consider that like at that age being in high school college, I don't know if I considered myself spiritual yet like, I don't remember thinking like about manifestation, or knowing what those words were, and how to ref. Like. I remember having deep thoughts about life and the meaning of life, but I don't think I was considered like I didn't have my spiritual waakning at that point in time. yet

[clayton_cuteri]:

it was kind of more, just like it sounds like. At least to me, there was

[teal_cooper]:

it was kind of a morer, just like it sounds like it. alway. me. It was like

[clayton_cuteri]:

more like a logical construct. Almost

[teal_cooper]:

more like a logical construct, almost more so, but not really logical. more of like I think, in the Grand scheme of things, it was very much aligned with the constant of manifestation. With that mindset and love, attraction and energy. I was big on energy. Um, just naturally, 'cause I grew up in that environment. My mom was pretty spiritual. Um, maybe I was familiar with the term spiritual, but I don't know if I was like I'm spiritual yet. at that point in my life. Um, like you know, I'm still at this point figuring out who I am exploring Going through You know, different chapters. But yeah, that's kind of where I was at mindset wise.

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay, cool. I mean that's it's pretty interesting because I, I don't think

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, cool army mos. It was pretty interesting because I, I don't think I'm

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm aware of too many people that have been at least in our generation. I've

[teal_cooper]:

aware of too many people that have been at least an old generation. I've been

[clayton_cuteri]:

been exposed at that level. Um, grown up.

[teal_cooper]:

exposed or likeah, blah. I now grown up. I know, and like I look back and I'm I think it's played a huge role in my life because when I did become exposed as I got older, it clicked so well for me where I was like. Wow, this all makes so much sense and it's like I intuedly and instinctly just got it and I felt like I knew it all along. but um, you know like I was kind of. It was like in my subconscious programming you know, and it's I feel really blessed. Really lucky that I was able to experience that at a young age.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Did you ever talk to friends at He in high school about this stuff?

[teal_cooper]:

Did you ever talk to friends or in high school about this stuff? No, like not at all.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Not at all.

[teal_cooper]:

not at all. No, I don't think so. I don't remember talking about the stuff with anyone like. it seemed like it was just a topic of like, and I don't even remember talking about this with. like. I guess like my mom would bring it up in in different ways, But it wasn't like I was sitting around the dinner table talking about um, manifestation or love attraction. Like my dad's not spiritual. Um, you know my dad's very logical minded. Um, Yeah, I don't remember really talking about at that age,

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's interesting, so you would have never talked to your dad about all the

[teal_cooper]:

so you would have never talked to your do about all this stuff. Yeah, I know

[clayton_cuteri]:

stuff interesting. So were you just having these conversations like on the side

[teal_cooper]:

Andaosa, So would you justc reus conversations like on the side with your mom?

[clayton_cuteri]:

with your mom?

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I guess like when we made vision boards, it was just my mom and I and then um, I think my dad was open to it, but he wasn't like into it and it's crazy 'cause when I was making vision board with her I was ten putting like random things on my board that made no sense, but my moms, every single ones come true, like every single one and it insane 'cause she was obviously like old enough to know. What what she wanted? Um, it's crazy. Mm. Yeah, it's have you looked back on yours? No, I. I think A got buried in

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, and yeah, it's have you looked back on yours?

[teal_cooper]:

the trash. like. but I've made vision part since and I' a huge advocate for them. I love that.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I I wonder if there was a picture of helies on your. Uh. first one.

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, I wonder if there was a picture of helies on your E. there wasn't I don't think there was. I. I think I put like, Um, I remember cutting out like an M, T, V, like award. Like some. I was like looking at the teenager magazines, you know, like. I don't even know the kids chokee. Yeah, probably I. You had one of those little awards on know the kids chokee. Yeah, probably I. You had one of those little awards on

[clayton_cuteri]:

The Kids' Choice awards. Yeah, you had one of those little awards on there.

[teal_cooper]:

there. Yeah, there. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Nice. I mean, you know I, you just got to commit to right. I guess that's

[teal_cooper]:

nice. I mean, you don't know. you just got to commit to a right. I guess that's

[clayton_cuteri]:

kind of the interesting thing, though, too right is if you don't really know

[teal_cooper]:

kind of the interesting thing, though, too rote is. if you don't really know

[clayton_cuteri]:

what you're doing, you might not be

[teal_cooper]:

what you're doing, you might not be

[clayton_cuteri]:

aligned with picking what you truly want right

[teal_cooper]:

aligned with picking what you truly want right totally, And I think when you don't really know you want, that confuses the universe. And so, if you know what you want, but at the time I thought you know, maybe I want this, but I was like eleven years old, so it obviously shifts and changes. I mean, even as we gw up, we change what we want, And um, I think being intentional and like decisive is really important

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[teal_cooper]:

right.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I mean, even on top of that like I, I feel like there's at least some

[teal_cooper]:

and I mean, even on top of that like I, I feel like there's at least some part

[clayton_cuteri]:

part of the the journey or some part of the travel. Is

[teal_cooper]:

of the the journey or some part of the travel. Is

[clayton_cuteri]:

you know having those intermediate things of? Okay? Well, let's say it's a

[teal_cooper]:

you know having those intermediate things of? Okay? Well, let's say it's a car

[clayton_cuteri]:

car or something right Like I want this car. and as you're progressing

[teal_cooper]:

or something right like I want this car. and as you're progressing towards it,

[clayton_cuteri]:

towards it, you start to realize like Wait like this isn't like. Yeah, I

[teal_cooper]:

you start to realize like Wait like this isn't like. Yeah, I mean, a car would

[clayton_cuteri]:

mean, a car would be nice, but this isn't really what I wanted. you know.

[teal_cooper]:

be nice, but this isn't really what I wanted. You know. it's what of me. It

[clayton_cuteri]:

and me. it feels like it's like one of those stepping stones.

[teal_cooper]:

feels like it's like one of those stepping stones totally, or it could just be like something from the ego that you want instead of something that you your soul wants. And so I feel like that happens all the time when you get the car and you're like, Oh, this didn't really feel like. I thought it would feel

[clayton_cuteri]:

Right, do you feel like that? There's an unhealthy amount of using the ego

[teal_cooper]:

right. Do you feel like that? There's an unhealthy amount of using the ego to

[clayton_cuteri]:

to like in with things that you might be wanting to manifest

[teal_cooper]:

like in with things that you might be wanting to manifs like me personally, or just in general

[clayton_cuteri]:

in general? If there's like a I mean, personal experience or if like,

[teal_cooper]:

In general. If there's like a I, personal experience or ref, I've definitely used like I've I've had experiences where I have manifest it from the ego, and now I'm at the point where I can differentiate what is ego driven and what's not, Um, here's the thing. If you're manufacturer in ego, you're still go to get it. It doesn't Doesn't um, uh, deter you from getting it. It's just it's not gonna. sometimes. If it's on a line, it might not happen, but I mean it's not goingnna feel the way you thought it would feel. if it's ego driven. You know, it's not going to be like expansive and actually, 'cause I think at the end of the day the reason why we want anything in life is because of the feelings that we think we're going to feel when we achieve it or get it. And so a big thing I've learned through my podcast too, is that we need to focus on trying to embody the feelings in the present, like through the process, instead of waiting till the end So we don't you know, get there and we're like, All right. What's next? Okay? like, Let's get to the next milestone, you know, and we can actually enjoy the process.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I think that's a huge. a huge. important you piece of the puzzle when

[teal_cooper]:

I think that's a huge. a huge. important. you know, piece of the puzzle when

[clayton_cuteri]:

manifesting Um, you know, that's something I've definitely heard numerous

[teal_cooper]:

manifesting. Um, you know, that's something I've definitely heard numerous

[clayton_cuteri]:

people talk about. Do you feel like there's a correlation here? Um You, you

[teal_cooper]:

people talk about. Do you feel like there's a correalition here? Um, you, you

[clayton_cuteri]:

mentioned earlier a law attraction. Have you heard of Uh, like Neviil Godder

[teal_cooper]:

mentioned earlier law attraction. Have you heard of Uh, like Meble, Goder and

[clayton_cuteri]:

and the Law of Assumption

[teal_cooper]:

the law Assumption? I haven't heard of that person, but I've heard of a law of assumption like,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Like? Yeah, core concept being like, You know you're attracting to you what

[teal_cooper]:

like you, core cause of doing like you know you're attracting to what you want,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you want? but then assumption is more just like. Oh, I already have it.

[teal_cooper]:

But then assumption is more just like. Oh already have. yeah, no. I think that's really important and it may. It's more of like embodying the feelings of what it would feel like if you already had it, which I guess is kind of law assumption. because when you're stepping into that version of yourself that already has whatever it is you want already has achieved whatever it is, then you're matching the frequency of that energetic frequency of really attracting it to you, because you're already. It's like a rate or not be' already like tuned into it, so you'res goingnna attract it Versus like If I'm down here and I'm like I wantnna, I'm like wanting it. I'm not actually being it, so I'm not goingnna be able to be a match for it. If that makes sense.

[clayton_cuteri]:

No, it does. You're in the frequency of wanting versus the frequency of

[teal_cooper]:

No, those you, you're in the frequency of want to versus the frequency of

[clayton_cuteri]:

being.

[teal_cooper]:

being. Yeah, And I think it's all about being so in. You say a lot of assumption. It's like when I assume I already have it, then I I am being it and I think that's what it comes down to

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you feel like there's a difference between law of attraction and a lot of

[teal_cooper]:

do. You feel like there's a difference between more of attraction and a more of

[clayton_cuteri]:

assumption

[teal_cooper]:

assumption. I feel like they go hand in hand. I think Um to, In order to attract, you have to assume you know like you have to embody, and like match that frequency in order to be a a magnet to attract it

[clayton_cuteri]:

in

[teal_cooper]:

in order for it to come like you were. Yeah, it's like and I think that can go

[clayton_cuteri]:

for to come like your waying. That's something I've always kind of waying. That's something I've always kind of

[teal_cooper]:

into any um category of your life, Right, like relationships or wealth, or I mean abundance and abundance and relationships love money. Everything so yeah, that's something. I've always kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

been not sure about. I guess always kind of like going back and forth in my

[teal_cooper]:

been not sure about ass. Always kind of like going back and forth in my mind

[clayton_cuteri]:

mind about. you know, the lot of attraction versus law assumption. Maybe

[teal_cooper]:

about. you know the law. attraction vers The law of assumption, maybe partially

[clayton_cuteri]:

partially. it's just a lack of

[teal_cooper]:

shows a lack of

[clayton_cuteri]:

understanding both of them fully, but I mean it feels like they' over. they

[teal_cooper]:

understanding both of them fully, but it. I mean, it feels like they're over

[clayton_cuteri]:

cross over each other. so

[teal_cooper]:

the cross overver each other so

[clayton_cuteri]:

so much that it's almost the same, I guess in my mind, but maybe there's a

[teal_cooper]:

so much, but it's almost the same. I go on my mind, but maybe there's a slight

[clayton_cuteri]:

slight difference I missing.

[teal_cooper]:

difference, so yeah, to me they feel very similar. Um, I guess they just have you know. It's two different laws, so to me it just makes more sense. The go hand in hand. It's like you need one for the other, and then there is a law of detachment. Have you heard of that law?

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um, I have not.

[teal_cooper]:

Um, I know. So that's the one that I learned the most the past two years is like from first inexperience, and that to me I think is the most important while there is

[clayton_cuteri]:

Can you give uh, the listeners the cotmoy, a quickundown.

[teal_cooper]:

smokers quicker. Yeah, so like, let's say Okay. So whenever we're attached to something like where we need this thing to happen in order to feel happy, achieved accomplished whatever it is. it's like we're suffocating it because we want it to happen so bad. like we're so attached to it. So we're like trying to control the outcome Versus like if we're detached Where after this goes, Handing him with the law of assumption. Let's say you're in the losumption. You're assuming you already have whatever it is, Then you're detached because you don't need that thing to happen. You already have it, so you're not going to be attached to it. You're going to be detached if you already have it. So when you're attached to something, it's like you're giving off that energy of need and you're giving off the energy of lack. you're like I need this thing to happen. I'm gripping it so hard and that's what I was doing with my business and I learned like, Oh, this is why I'm not seeing results, Because I'm literally like coming from a place of lack every day and I didn't even realize it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Now was it

[teal_cooper]:

No, was. did I explain right? Well, I think there's like a lot of things going through

[clayton_cuteri]:

you did? I think there' like a lot of things going through there. Um, at

[teal_cooper]:

there. Okay,

[clayton_cuteri]:

least it hit me as a lot.

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, I's break it down

[clayton_cuteri]:

Let's depress it a little.

[teal_cooper]:

a little.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It was a good intro. It's a good.

[teal_cooper]:

Okay. let's do compress it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

everything that's happening

[teal_cooper]:

everything. What's happening? Okay? Let me think of like a metaphor to um, um, connect it to. I guess dating is an easy one to understand, So it's like when someone's coming across as needy or desperate, it's like you can heal that energy. You can be. You can really tell like Okay, This person is attached to the idea that they need to be relationship versus if someone doesn't need a relationship and they're happy on their own, and they feel fulfilled and like satisfied in their life. And they don't need to have someone else to make them happy and feel whole. That energy's so much more attractive and you can. that person is going to attract more to them because they are not in the state of need and lack. They're in a state of abundance, so it's like that mentality if you can bring that energy to money and to business like I mean, for my own personal example, like I was. Um, you know, trying to hit x amount in sales every month, trying to place x amount of machines every month and every month I wasn't seeing return And so I got discouraged month of a month Like why am I not hitting this, and then I got even more attached like I need this to happen in order to you know, feel accomplished. I need this to happen in order to like pay myself. x. Like I was just attaching so hard onto. you know the numbers I needed to hit that I stopped like having fun in the process and I stopped feeling joy. I stopped actually enjoying the journey and then cobot happened and it actually forced me to just like fall on my face And it really taught me everything about detachment because I had nothing to attach to you Like my business literally almost crumbled and I had nothing to do for like three months, and luckily like loans helped us stay afloat. But like I realized, like wow, I, my whole identity was. Um, you know myselff, Worth was like wrapped around my business, and so I needed to detach for my business in order to realize like Okay, I'm actually happy and whole and I, I am my own identity without my business, And once I realizeed that I like, didn't put that energy of lack and need into it, and I became okay with the idea that if my business were to shatter tomorrow, I will be okay and I will figure

[clayton_cuteri]:

Sss,

[teal_cooper]:

it out and I'll start something else, or you have to be so okay with whatever it is that. You want crumbling the pieces is in order to like, completely detach from it, and then we, when you show up with that energy, the universe rewards you because the universe is like Okay. This person is whole and happy and um worthy on their own. They don't need anything else, so you're already becoming a match to attracting it,

[clayton_cuteri]:

so we're definitely going to dive into the whole business aspect of it,

[teal_cooper]:

so we're definitely going to dog it into the whole business aspect of it,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Cause I'm interested there. But if I could, if there's like a quick way to

[teal_cooper]:

'cause I'm the rest of it. But if I could, If there's like a quick way to

[clayton_cuteri]:

summarize it, Would it sound something along the lines of

[teal_cooper]:

swimmerage, it would it sound something along the lines of like

[clayton_cuteri]:

you need to assume you already have it?

[teal_cooper]:

You need to assume you already have a

[clayton_cuteri]:

But since you are assuming you already have it, it detaches you from wanting

[teal_cooper]:

books, andsue, or assuming you already have it, it detaches you from wanting

[clayton_cuteri]:

it. Or is it like more of a personal identity Detachment that needs to

[teal_cooper]:

it, Or is it like more of a personal identity detachment, but it still happen.

[clayton_cuteri]:

happen.

[teal_cooper]:

I think it's both, I think, when you assume you already have it, 'cause if you already have something you're not attached to it. it's like if it's like as simple as like I want water. and I know I'm going to get water like I. I know I'm going to drink it, so I'm not like focusing so much on drinking water, and like over attaching to it like I know I'm gonna have it It Like if you assume you're you already have it, then you're automatically detaching from it. I think right like it kind of goes hand in hand, but the self worth and identity thing I think is separate. It's like'cause that complain into a bunch of different roles. So yeah, with like business, it's like if you're detached then you're detached from it being a part of your yourself worth and your identity too.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I think that there's

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I think that there's

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah. I'm pick. I think I'm picking up what you're putting down.

[teal_cooper]:

yeah. I'm picking think I'm going up. put your put down. I really need to practice how I'm like, um, expressing thiscause. I'm just like verbal processing it all right now. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's all kind.

[teal_cooper]:

don't know if it makes making sense to anyone else but me, but I'm hoping people are are catching what I'm putting out.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, I think that's something that just kind of happens with podcast. I

[teal_cooper]:

I mean, I think that's something that that just kind of happens with Porcast.

[clayton_cuteri]:

mean, even whenever I was whenever you graciously hosted me on yours, I

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, even whenever I was whenever you graciously hosted me on yours, I think

[clayton_cuteri]:

think that was something

[teal_cooper]:

that was something. I was.

[clayton_cuteri]:

new ideas that come up and then you're kind of on the spot like. I think

[teal_cooper]:

these new ideas that come up and then you're kind of on the spot like. I think

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's a little bit of this, But maybe it's a little bit of that and you kind

[teal_cooper]:

it's a little bit of this, but maybe it's a little bit of that and you kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

of have like this back and forth going on where you're trying to figure out

[teal_cooper]:

have like this back and forth going on where you're trying to figure out like

[clayton_cuteri]:

like how true it is. It's like it's a little bit of this, but it's not so

[teal_cooper]:

how true it is. It's like it's a little bit of this, but it's not so much that

[clayton_cuteri]:

much that, and you're kind of like walking back and forth that line.

[teal_cooper]:

and you're kind of like walking back and forth that lot for me. It's not that I. I know it's true like I don't feel back and forth. It's just I don't know how to express it to make it start to make sense to anyone else, 'cause it makes so much sense to me in my head and it's like it feels so true and feels so um right like I know. It's it's a. It's how the universe works. I've seen it first hand in my own life. How it works once they detached miracles, Plpped in my life. More bidness has come in than ever before. I don't need to like, Um convince myself. It's more of. I don't know how to like express it in the right way. That makes sense.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, and I think that was kind of the angle I was trying to go with is is

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, and I think that was kind of the angle I was trying to go with. It is

[clayton_cuteri]:

that you have this idea. This framework of what's going on how it's

[teal_cooper]:

that you have this idea, this framework of what's going on how it's happening,

[clayton_cuteri]:

happening, But then to take a amount of knowledge which is

[teal_cooper]:

But then to take a amount of knowledge which is

[clayton_cuteri]:

arguably infinite, and then toress it down into words, articulate those

[teal_cooper]:

arguably infinite, or then toress it down into words. it's hardiculate these

[clayton_cuteri]:

words. Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

words. Yeah, yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

using words I understand using words the people are going to understand you

[teal_cooper]:

using words I understand using words. the people are going to understand, you

[clayton_cuteri]:

know. and to summarize all that, that was what I was kind of

[teal_cooper]:

know, and to summarize all that, that was what I was kind of for sure

[clayton_cuteri]:

trying to lay out.

[teal_cooper]:

trying to lay out. Yeah, and yeah, I think finding the right words can be a a challenge. but yeah, I think I don't know. I think it mades sense.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, I mean to to point out how crazy it is right. We were just talking

[teal_cooper]:

Well, I mean to to point out how crazy it is right. We were just talking about

[clayton_cuteri]:

about the word assumption, attraction and detachment and trying to argue

[teal_cooper]:

the word assumption, attraction and detachment and trying to argue that they're

[clayton_cuteri]:

that they're all roughly the same thing.

[teal_cooper]:

all roughly the same thing. That's so true. it all. they all pretty much clump together and and all mean the same thing. It just a different ways.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's probably going to help like two people and everyone else is going to

[teal_cooper]:

That's probably going to help like two people and everyone else is going to be

[clayton_cuteri]:

be like. What the hell are they talking about?

[teal_cooper]:

like. What the hell are they talking about? Whatever

[clayton_cuteri]:

Is there

[teal_cooper]:

is there? weed in.

[clayton_cuteri]:

weed in the air in San Diego?

[teal_cooper]:

There's really not

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh man.

[teal_cooper]:

coffee.

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, speaking of coffee, Um, let's let's keep going on with your story.

[teal_cooper]:

Well, speaking of coffee of's, let's keep going on with your story. Though,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Then let's get to the

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, that was a really big tangent.

[clayton_cuteri]:

no. I. . that's hey. that's what we're here for. De for the worm holes. Um,

[teal_cooper]:

Um, no, I, let's that's what we're here. Forward you for the warorm holes. Okay, Oh, we left off. you were in college. Let's see here, you' arising Disney

[clayton_cuteri]:

we left off. You were in college. Let's see here, you were a a rising Disney princess for wearing heeles,

[teal_cooper]:

Prince. So where he

[clayton_cuteri]:

the Healy Princess And

[teal_cooper]:

hes Princess? And

[clayton_cuteri]:

then it wasn't a fit for you. you t change schools.

[teal_cooper]:

then it wasn't a fit for you. You tr change schools.

[clayton_cuteri]:

You then

[teal_cooper]:

You then

[clayton_cuteri]:

started going into college and you weren't sure what? I'm losing my train of

[teal_cooper]:

started going into college and you weren't sure what? Im losing my turn. What I

[clayton_cuteri]:

thought now too.

[teal_cooper]:

wanted My major to be

[clayton_cuteri]:

Your memory thing's starting to leak on to me.

[teal_cooper]:

your memory thing started le to No, it's not. And then I basically went through college and I, you know was having fun. Great college experience made a lot of amazing connections and I think I learned a lot just about life through college. but yeah, nothing where I was like this is. I want to do with the rest of my life.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Did you pick a major Because I know you said you did like a general.

[teal_cooper]:

But did you pi a majorcause? Yeah, it was jam. journalism. Media studies is what I picked. Not like it was a general one, But then there wasn't like a one that

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well. That was a general one. But then there wasn't like a one that they pushed you off. Ono, or

[teal_cooper]:

they pushed you off on. to. No, I just kept abroad the whole time. You can just keep it like the emphasis was in. Actually, the

[clayton_cuteri]:

Ah, okay, gotcha.

[teal_cooper]:

emphasis was in media studies, as I decided. Instead of like going a different direction, Um

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean podcast host. There comes back in again.

[teal_cooper]:

of in Pocast host, Yeah, comes back in a again. Here we go. Yeah, it all makes sense in the end connecting the do going backwards, but um. Yeah. so I guess my junior year I studied abroad in Florence, Italy,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Wow,

[teal_cooper]:

which was amazing and it was. Um.

[clayton_cuteri]:

do you speak Italian?

[teal_cooper]:

No, nothing. no Italian, but it was. You know, a pretty common thing for college students to do at the time, And so a bunch of my friends and I went. Um, I. W. we chose Florence, and a lot of other friends went to Parcelona. Other places too, Um, and my, this is second semester year. and so, I guess on the campus itself there was this Um. Bulki, looking like nothing special looking but the espresso vending machine. And there was always a line of students waiting for a cup of coffee from this vending machine And I remember thinking that's interesting. I've never seen anyone like a line of kids or people waiting for a bending machine before, and one day during the break I thought I might as well just try it and I tried it and it was actually really good, Uh quality espresso, and that was kind of. it. Didn't think twice about it. I was like Well, that's interesting something you see in Europe, and as for it, a couple of weeks later, my younger brother was in the library setting for finals at like twelve am. M, and U. T in Austin called me and it was like the afternoon my time, and he was like Teal at the best idea, and I was like what he was like. I'm in the library. There's nothing open. It's twelve a M. crashing for finals. What if we started a high quality coffee vending machine that students and like kids actually loved and we called it Vndy, bean? And I was like, I literally just saw this concept in my school like it' a lightable moment, you know, and I was like this whole fire like passion consuming, you know, feeling took over my body. I was like this is what I meant to do like it felt so right. Um, and it was funny because we joke about it now and he wasn't inviting me to do with him. He just told me about this idea that he had, but I was like, No, this is like a hundred percent what I wasm supposed to do. And so we're doing this together. Um, he was two or younger, so like he was just starting college and I was about to go into my senior year and so Um, it was perfect, tping for me to figure out like what to do next in the next chapter. So I guess that whole summer before my senior year I spent just like calling different vening manufacturers and picking their brains and asking them a thousand questions about the industry, and I learned really quickly that the vending industry's archaic and it pretty much just was Ma like, run by middle aged men, and every single person told me that getting in the Coffey bending industry was the stupidest thing you could do, and it's a dying industry and everyone's getting out and I remember thinking like this is all the validation I needed. Like this was exactly like this is perfect. Like these guys don't get it. They're old. They don't see the vision. Um, you know, and I felt like I saw the concept and we saw like I just saw it working so clearly And so um fas forward, you know, Basically all of senior year I spent just like executing and working on this, and kind of like I still was doing school, but wasn't my priority and Um, eventually we launched the first prototype. My senior year. I convinced this apartment by our school, or like by the campus to let us place this machine. We took a loan from our dad for six thousand dollars to buy this machine. Our F. family friend helped us. He was like a in branding and design, helped us brand the whole thing with the logo. The cups. Everything and I, kind of just like we taught ourselves everything we knew about It was kind of just like doing. You know we, There was nothing really else to do besides you know, executing and we ended up launching it And I just remember thinking like it was the best day of my life because it was something that we were working on for a year, or like, I guess half of a year, and it actually coming into reality and thinking like Wow, Now it exists in the real world and it was incredible. You know, like seeing something come to life, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's beautiful.

[teal_cooper]:

the funniest thing about the whole story is that the coffee was absolutely disgusting. Like the actual product

[clayton_cuteri]:

I was gonna ask.

[teal_cooper]:

was chrrible. Yeah, like it was actually horrible and it was funny 'cause I promoted it in the school paper. All my best friends. I don't know if you wass only the last instgm post of the video like I. It was

[clayton_cuteri]:

Maybe

[teal_cooper]:

the video of launch day and had all my best friends rupping Benny be being branded tanks and hats, and we were like super high energy screaming at students. Like getting everyone to try the coffee. Get free copy for hours. Blasting music had the best time. Um, but the coffee was so gross.

[clayton_cuteri]:

did that overlooked in the production?

[teal_cooper]:

Overlooked on the production. I just we picked the wrong machine. A, it was, we did a lot of things wrong, but I don't regret it at all because we learned so much from it and we wouldn't be where we are today if we didn't make those mistakes in the beginning.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm curious what you were saying at the one point where you were calling the

[teal_cooper]:

I'm curious what you were siting At the one point where you were calling the

[clayton_cuteri]:

uh,

[teal_cooper]:

uh,

[clayton_cuteri]:

oh, my gosh. what do they call the vending machine? You were talking to the

[teal_cooper]:

oh, my gosh manufacturing machine. You were talking about the Vnning machine

[clayton_cuteri]:

vending machine companies and you said that they were like archaic. It was

[teal_cooper]:

companies, and you said that there were like archaic. It was older people. Why

[clayton_cuteri]:

older people. Why were they getting out of coffee? Why were they Why they

[teal_cooper]:

were they getting out of Coe W. The where the fuel he was dying? Because the

[clayton_cuteri]:

feel like it was dying

[teal_cooper]:

the actual technology was horrible, and the logistics behind the maintenance of them is a pain in the ass. And that's why there aren't a lot of Um competitors out there today. Because it's not just like going up to a vending machine and stocking consumer packaged goods with like snacks and sodas. This is actual. Um. you know product where it grinds I mean our machines. Now the machines at the time didn't grind the beans, but it's like grind grinds of beans. It creates actual um, espresso based beverages, So it's a lot more cleaning that's involved with the whole operation versus just like Um. supplying it with, you know, wrapped snacks and sodas and cans

[clayton_cuteri]:

right where you can just have one person go in, change his things out, or

[teal_cooper]:

right where you can serve one person. go in. change this things out or open the

[clayton_cuteri]:

open the door loaded up. Take the money

[teal_cooper]:

door. load up. take them on. Yeah, totally um. but I mean the M. the manufacturs we were talking to were all American, Ba, or not, like U. S based manufacturers, and that was in our first mistake. So the machine itself, they weren't wrong. It was a piece of shet and so it was just horrible. but I didn't realize the time that was the issue was we needed a outsource overseas and so we learned that

[clayton_cuteri]:

I was to. I was going to ask us. Maybe I'm jumping ahead the story, but did

[teal_cooper]:

the hard way I was goingnna askcause. Maybe I'm jumping out of the store, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

would you have gone to like a place in Europe or Italy, even where they have

[teal_cooper]:

would you have gone to like a good place in Europe or to leave them? Well,

[clayton_cuteri]:

these

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I don't know why to' think about that Because we. I saw it in in Europe, but I thought I don't know. I just wasn't thinking big enough. I wasn't thinking that was possible. I was so young and like, I thought there could be an easier way. Like there is a manufacturer right in l. A, that we got this machine from and I thought you know there. They didn't exist in the U. S. yet, like America or European vending machines,

[clayton_cuteri]:

right?

[teal_cooper]:

or or Um, you know, Oss from China or Japan, or you know where they actually are popular in common. So I wasn't thinking that way yet And so you know, we launched that prototype and for me it was kind of all the validation I needed because I saw the concept. I saw a need for the concept and I saw that students were excited about it and I saw the whole idea like the branding was on point. Um, The idea was there like the concept was there, but the product wasn't so to me. That was like an easy fix. It's like going back to the drawing boards and just doing r and d to perfect the product.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So whenever you had the first coffee machine was that just like a standard

[teal_cooper]:

So whenever you had the first coffee machine was it was like like a standard

[clayton_cuteri]:

model you got from somebody

[teal_cooper]:

model you draw from someone building. Yeah, no, that was a a standard coffee of Anyen machine from the manufacturer, but we branded it ourselves like custom brand That

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, Like fitted the outside with like your brand and stuff.

[teal_cooper]:

really look for the outside was like your brand and stuff. Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

And so then you needed to

[teal_cooper]:

And so then you needed to.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, So then let me see here. Let me try to get the story situated a little

[teal_cooper]:

Well, So then Im try to get the stor situated a little bit.

[clayton_cuteri]:

bit. So you, you know you had this product? you created it? You used the vending

[teal_cooper]:

So you. you know you had this product crew that you use the vending machine

[clayton_cuteri]:

machine from in the United States, And then the coffee wasn't that good. Was

[teal_cooper]:

from end of the United States, And then the coffee wasn't that good. Was that a

[clayton_cuteri]:

that a product of the fact that the the beans you chose, or the way that

[teal_cooper]:

product of the fact the the the beans you chose or the way that the co machine

[clayton_cuteri]:

that Co machine worked?

[teal_cooper]:

worked? No, had nothing to do with the actual prac? It was the machine. The machine itself was just really um. janky, like low, you know, not really functional. The it wasn't innovative enough. the capabilities weren't there. Yeah, it was the machine itself. you couldn't. It was all uh, ground coffee with fil filter systems and not, you know, grinding beans to cup, which our machines do. Now

[clayton_cuteri]:

so at that point was that whenever you, whenever you realized the coffee

[teal_cooper]:

that point was whenever you whenever the realized the coffee was't doing

[clayton_cuteri]:

wasn't doing too well, Is that when you reached out to a European

[teal_cooper]:

through Well is that when you reached all to a European anversary, So what

[clayton_cuteri]:

manufacturer,

[teal_cooper]:

happened was? It was funny because we were posting all over in or Twitter and social media. We got Um interests from this investor And so this person Rechle wanted to invest, and we leveraged his. He actually owned a coffee shop and so his whole team, who does like the coffee roasting, and um, I guess coffee tastings taught us a lot about coffee and it was really cool that we got E levered that, but the act actual, uh person ended up being kind of like fake, like he didn't actually have the funds to invest and it didn't. Um. it didn't turn out it. We learned a lot from it, but yeah, it was kind of like an interesting situation, but uh, we learned a lot through like his team, which was really cool and we got to uses warehouse for free. It was awesome. but then you know fast for a little bit more. Um, we raised family and friend round. so a family friend invested and from there we've actually. Yeah, we found the manufacturer overseas in Columbia, and we bought one machine, and then we basically custom made a lot of the technology with them to like reverse for the American market because a lot of it didn't um, make sense. For the American market was more tailored towards the European market, so we worked with them to really tailor the technology and it was a lot of um, dialing in the recipes with local rosters here. and like really getting the product perfected with them too, because they're the the best, you know, the biggest coffee snobs, biggest coffe connoissaurs, and we were just learning about coffee like we loved it, but we didn't know much about it that, so uh, it was really fun. It was a really fun creative process being able to to do that

[clayton_cuteri]:

you said

[teal_cooper]:

you. So the machines were adjusted

[clayton_cuteri]:

that the machines were adjusted. Is that like you are like interface, like

[teal_cooper]:

like you are, like interface. weref, Kind of stuff was a programming. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

user interface, Kind of stuff. Is that programming? I mean.

[teal_cooper]:

it's more of programming and with the actual recipes like dialing in and Um. customizing the uh capabilities for the amount of grams for each drink and Um. adjusting, like the the bean size, the hopper, the the espresso, Like the How many um. Gds of beans are going in Eres. It was a lot of like customization in that way, but I mean now the innovation we're working on is tenfold. This isn in the very beginning. Um, but yeah, no, we still work with that same manufacturer today.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, okay, cool. You still got to go? What? So why did you guys start this?

[teal_cooper]:

Oh good. cool. Who go? Yeah, what? So when did you go to store this room four

[clayton_cuteri]:

It would have been four years ago five years ago.

[teal_cooper]:

years ago five years ago. So the beta that we launched was my senior year twenty sixteen And then we took a year off and kind of just like raised the round and did a bunch of r and d, and we relaunched in twenty and a twenty seventeen, so I, I wouldn't say we were like. Really, we weren't like making money from a machine in a public location. Tiil, like End of twenty seventeen, Oh was

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay, Okay, and how was that? how did that do?

[teal_cooper]:

yeah. I mean, it was a lot of char and error like we had to figure out what kind of location this would make sense for And also we had to convince them to let us place the machine in their building right, And

[clayton_cuteri]:

right?

[teal_cooper]:

it was definitely a challenge like in the beginning. It was an insane amount of rejection like I think I got over a hundred noses before I got my first yes, and I remember getting super discouraged thinking like is am. Are we the only ones that think this is going to work Like? Does no one else believe in this vision like we do And eventually you know you get your first big name and then you can use them for credibility purposes, and it's kind of like a snowball, but Ga, not first person to believe in you. Our first client, I think took us. Um, sometime

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's wild. I'm surprised you wouldn't have been able to go to like just to

[teal_cooper]:

world. I'm surprised you wouldn't have been able to go to Likeric to like the

[clayton_cuteri]:

like the schools and say, Hey, throw this in your library. for you know,

[teal_cooper]:

schools and security throws in your library. For you know, one of your coffee

[clayton_cuteri]:

whenever your coffee shops close up,

[teal_cooper]:

shops. Clo. Yeah, I know San Diego State was very challenging. They like were throwing me in a thousand directions and not being super supportive so Yeah, it

[clayton_cuteri]:

Unfortunate. Well, you don't have to have them too much airtime.

[teal_cooper]:

was unfortunate. Yeah, too much to. Yeah. that's a red tape

[clayton_cuteri]:

What is you're saying that it's difficult to clean, difficult to do

[teal_cooper]:

would Is you're saying that it's difficult to clean, difficult to do different

[clayton_cuteri]:

different stuff? Do you have to have like a technician, go out there and

[teal_cooper]:

stuff. Do you have to a recognition and go walker, and like fix all books. What

[clayton_cuteri]:

like fix all that stuff for you?

[teal_cooper]:

for you? So Yeah, I mean, in the beginning my brother and I, there was no U S based tech team. We had to teach ourselves how to break these machines down and put them back together, So we became You know. Over those first two years we became vending technicians. I'd constantly be going to different machines to fix grinder jams or place parts, cleaning and restocking the machines every weekend. Um, they needed to be clean restocked every week, so you know it was a lot of manual labor. But if we didn't learn how to do that ourselves and like, we didn't know how the machines work to the best of our ability, Like and tris. and actually my brother became way more knowledgeable than I ever was. Like he actually like was naturally really good at this, Is up breaking things apart and and really building the machine back and fixing different parts of the technology, But Um, for me, it was definitely something I had to. Um, rewir, my, my mindset to teach myself that I'm like I can do this kind of thing. Um, but yeah, I mean, luckily we were able to master it because if we weren't able to do that, we wouldn't be able to hire other people and really train them. You know and know exactly what their roles entail

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, that's whenever you as when you know if you know something as if you

[teal_cooper]:

is whenever youcause When you know if you know something is, if you were able

[clayton_cuteri]:

were able to teach it to somebody else.

[teal_cooper]:

to teach to somebody. Totally,

[clayton_cuteri]:

How now to get a little bit back to spirituality. Is this playing any role

[teal_cooper]:

oh no, do a little bit bro to spiritual there, this pointing new role in the

[clayton_cuteri]:

in the success of you and the company? Are you meditating doing any

[teal_cooper]:

success of View and the company. Are you moditating doing any spiritual

[clayton_cuteri]:

spiritual practices?

[teal_cooper]:

practices? Um,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Maybe vision boards with regards to the company?

[teal_cooper]:

vision boards with regards to the compent. Yes, so I guess backtrack to my senior year of college, I was diagnosed with this like health condition that Um. that, basically I think was the catalyst for my like spiritual journey, and more of like, inward, self reflective journey were basically, Um, it's a really random like health issue, but I had to get jaw surgery where essentially the joints in my head became arthritic Where they basically just started like Um, resorbing and drinking, so I found that out by my bite like I had braces growing up. My. My bite was like totally normal, but in college my bite started morphing and so like, I had a really big open bite by the time I finished college, and the only way to fix this problem was to get reconstructive jaw surgery where they break your upper and lower jaw. You have to get braces after graduating college and they wire your mouth shut, and like rebuild it back together. And so your mouth is wired, shot for a couple of months, and you really can only blend food and like drink liquids. And um that entire journey for me was I think the start of like my own spiritual journey

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's like we got the process started,

[teal_cooper]:

would grow up, Brosor. Yeah, because it was the first time where I mean a, I felt extremely alone. I felt like a victim. I was like. Why is this happening to me like I felt like that was my rock bottom? You know, like I was in a really low place, Like had to get braces after graduating college. Like you're supposed to start your life. Not like reverse backwards when you, you know what I mean, and like having to go through that well, I had a really bad lisp, because my bite was open, and so I ha, was super self conscious about how I was speaking. Um, you know I was going through skin issues like acne at the time, too, and um, just a bunch of things were going against me. I felt like, and this whole jasser d thought was like, put me back. And you know that whole, It was pretty much like a year of my life. I had to really focus on like healing. and Um, that's when I started meditating, I started journaling. I started watching youue videos of all these inspirational people who I still look up to to this day, and learning way more about like the mindset and how important the mind really is. And yeah, I think that was like that was in twenty sixen, S. Twenty seventeen. That was the year after I graduated. The summer after I graduated is when I was like, really forced for the first time to like reflect and dive inward,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and that whenever you notably also started putting the vending machines up

[teal_cooper]:

and most one ever do. Notably also started was putting them in front of the

[clayton_cuteri]:

was seventeen.

[teal_cooper]:

machines was too. Yeah, so that was Um. By the time I had my surgery, I had a couple of machines out. they were in like random places like a rock climbing gym. Um, I can't remember other like a salon Like it was like random places that I convinced certain people to let us place the machines in to get some feedback. So it was a very beginning of our business. Um, but yeah, I remember my brother had, like he was still in college in Austin, and how I'd like fly out and help out with like the routes, which is cleaning and restocking the machines While I was like under in surgery for a couple of months recovering well.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So it really

[teal_cooper]:

So

[clayton_cuteri]:

took a team effort to get at work in.

[teal_cooper]:

at work. Um, yeah, no, definitely. I mean. it was a team ever. from the beginning.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's pretty cool,

[teal_cooper]:

It was pretty cool.

[clayton_cuteri]:

but something

[teal_cooper]:

the one I found in Ros,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I find interesting At least, is they say not to get into business with

[teal_cooper]:

to get into the business with a forensic family. You feel like G husband issue

[clayton_cuteri]:

friends and family. You feel like that hasn't been an issue for you too,

[teal_cooper]:

too. No, I kind of feel like there is no one else that I could. Re. I think I'd rather go in business with my brother than a friend, because with your sibling there's no other level of trust that you can have than with your family, I think, And that level of closeness, like the challenging part, is boundaries right where. It's like setting boundaries to where you have to start really being able to respect that person and treat them like a colleague, and put those lines up of where you, not you know. don't text and call this person Every you know. Second of the day. Those are

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[teal_cooper]:

things that are hard to implement. you know, In a sense of like, differentiating those two categories, but I think you know. Luckily for us we had a great yinging gang where our skill sets really complimented each other and it worked really well.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's awesome. Do you talk to your brother about like the spirituality type

[teal_cooper]:

It's awesome. Do you sort your brother about boy spirituality type stuff? Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

stuff?

[teal_cooper]:

for sure, and he knows I'm like this, but I would say he's open minded and he's he can and be spiritual in a sense, but um, I wouldn't say like, to the extent that I am, I don't know if he. I think it's there inside of him. You just needs to um. discover it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Allow

[teal_cooper]:

Oh

[clayton_cuteri]:

it in?

[teal_cooper]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you feel like this is something I've noticed and I? I get mixed reviews on this.

[teal_cooper]:

do you feel like this is something I've noticed, Um, mis reviews, almost somem curious where you for? Do you feel like you see more

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm curious what you think. Do you feel like you see more women or men in

[teal_cooper]:

women or men or spiritualitypos?

[clayton_cuteri]:

the Uh, spirituality space?

[teal_cooper]:

I, I think maybe because I'm a woman and I have attracted a lot of other friends like women into my life that are on the same wavelength. I think it's I don't think it's one or the other. I just think I know more women in my life that are than I than men. but I the more, but like I'm meeting more and more men who are spiritual too. So it's just like finding them, but I don't know. I think I'm I would say more women. but that's just because of my circle.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay, I feel like

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, what do you believe?

[clayton_cuteri]:

I. Yeah, I feel I'm not sure. I feel like I see more women and my mind goes

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I feel. I'm not sure I feel like more women and my mind goes to thinking.

[clayton_cuteri]:

to thinking. It's more of just like an empathetic or emotional kind of

[teal_cooper]:

It's more of just like an empathetic or emotional kind of thing.

[clayton_cuteri]:

thing. Like a lot. I, I believe that a lot of intuition goes into

[teal_cooper]:

Like a lot of. I believe that a lot of intuition goes into

[clayton_cuteri]:

kind of spirituality in general, right, like there's no physical.

[teal_cooper]:

kind of spirituality in general, right, like there's no physical.

[clayton_cuteri]:

There's really no.

[teal_cooper]:

There's really no.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Like that's a weird way to put it. but like there's like no physical item

[teal_cooper]:

like. Huh. That's a weird way to put it. But like there's like no physical

[clayton_cuteri]:

that like, like you can drop a ball right and we can measure that it dropped

[teal_cooper]:

item. Like like you can drop a ball right and we can measure that it dropped

[clayton_cuteri]:

at. You know it. The acceleration of the drop was nine point eight. you

[teal_cooper]:

it. You know, the acceleration of the drop was non pointed. you know, meters

[clayton_cuteri]:

know, meters per second. Squar. we can measure. You know these different

[teal_cooper]:

per second squared. We can measure. You know these different aspects of it, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

aspects of it. But like I feel like there's something with

[teal_cooper]:

like I feel like there's something with

[clayton_cuteri]:

personally feel like something where women are like, almost closer

[teal_cooper]:

personally feel like something where women are like almost closer emotionally

[clayton_cuteri]:

emotionally to kind of these things. And so it

[teal_cooper]:

to kind of these things. And so it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

allows them a closer grasp. do it?

[teal_cooper]:

I think what it is closer. Yeah, know what you were saying Like along the lines, I think what it is is. I think men grab on to needing more proof and logical minding minded, and they are more like they need to see that rational aspect of things. Whereas I mean for me, I can't speak for like all women, but I feel like I gravitate more towards um. thantuitive side, like the feeling clarcentent, like having a gott feeling versus like having to to see actual living through for evidence.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you think that makes it easier for you to like? imagine?

[teal_cooper]:

Do you think it makes it easier for you to like Imagine? For sure, I think they

[clayton_cuteri]:

Reallyvid, like imagination.

[teal_cooper]:

of like, really vivid. like uh, imagination. Yeah, I think I've always had a bi imagination when it comes to like daydreaming and whatnot, But then when you talk about like meditation, I don't have a lot of vivid um meditations where I'm actually seeing visuals. That doesn't happen for me, but it more happens and I'm like you know driving or if I'm like about to go to sleep or' just waking up, I'll have like thed day dreamres, but it's not. I don't know. I think it's different from me when it comes to, 'cause I know a lot of people who have very vivid like daydreams are visuals within meditation.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Really? I've never heard a different differentiation There.

[teal_cooper]:

Really, I've never heard of different. The differentiation there? Yeah, I don't know. I was talking to a couple of friends the other night and they have very like distinct visual, um experiences when they're meditating. That's never happened Me before yet.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Have you tried to? or is it just like

[teal_cooper]:

Have you tried to, or is it just like? Yeah, I mean, I definitely try to, and I don't know what it is. I think it's like it just doesn't. I don't get there. I think what I'm trying to, it doesn't happen. But if I'm driving or if I'm like getting into my subconscious state, It just H flows like naturally.

[clayton_cuteri]:

it? just kind of comes out

[teal_cooper]:

it just kind of comes up or is like trying to force it?

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, okay, Oh, okay,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I guess I never really tri to force it, but like so when you meditate

[teal_cooper]:

yeah, I guess I never really try to force it. But like so, when you meditate

[clayton_cuteri]:

what' something you usually like would see, it's just dark.

[teal_cooper]:

with something you usually like would see, it's just dark. Yeah, like or thoughts popping. It's like it's like thoughts and all. Maybe I'll see that, but I'm not like visualizing what the meditation's telling me to visualize.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, okay, so you're saying like if you use a guided meditation and they have

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, okay, so you're saying like if you use a guarded meditation? Yeah, have

[clayton_cuteri]:

visual stuff in it, it's hard for you to actually visualize those things.

[teal_cooper]:

visual stuff in it. It's hard for you to actually visualize those things. exactly? Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, that's interesting.

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, that's interesting. I know. I think it's a block of'm trying to like work throughll, But

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you think there's any relation to

[teal_cooper]:

do you think there's any relation to

[clayton_cuteri]:

the

[teal_cooper]:

the

[clayton_cuteri]:

what? It seemed to me like you kind of blocked out a lot of like the acting

[teal_cooper]:

what? It seems to me like you kind of blocked out a lot of like the acting

[clayton_cuteri]:

stuff. It, it seemed to me like you did. Maybe you didn't. I don't know what

[teal_cooper]:

stuff. It it seems to me like you, did you't? I don't know what you think, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

you think, but it sounded like you were just recollecting all that recalling

[teal_cooper]:

it sounded like you were just recollecting all the recalling Alllthough. Do you

[clayton_cuteri]:

all that. Do you think there's a connection there at all?

[teal_cooper]:

think there's a connection me atle? I don't know. I really, don't. I think my memory. it's like if I don't think about something for a long time, I feel like it just suppresses naturally like I haven't thought about the acting thing in so long like I don't think there's a reason why I'm I'm not. I'm really not embarrassed about that part of my life If there's no reason why I'd be like suppressing it intentionally. Um, there definitely are things in my life that I for sure have is suppressed. and like you know, I'm blocking. Um, but it's not the acting thing. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[teal_cooper]:

think when it comes to like meditating in visuals, it's I think everyone has different like gifts that they resonate more with. For me. I'm way more in like feeling like I have gut feelings and knowings where it's like, and that's called clarcentient, Where it's not really the. I forget what it's called when you see. Um, I'm blanking like clear audience when you hear, but I don't. It's not

[clayton_cuteri]:

clavoyance.

[teal_cooper]:

clear Clero. Maybe it's cvoyant, but that's never been something that I, um, I guess resonate with. I'm more of like a feeling person, and like I can sentd to other people's energy really well, and like walk into a room and get the vibe right off the bat, or I will get got feelings or intuitive downloads and feelings all the time, and I' like I know that's what I need to do and I don't need to explain it to anyone. I don't need to rationalize it in my mind, whereas a lot of men I think need to rationalize it, and that's where they get caught up like my brother and I will get in fights where I'm like. I just this is my got thinging. He' like, I don't give a fu about your gut feeling like this is a business and you have to do it this way. I'm like. it's you know. it's like you know that's the the disconnect.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, but maybe that's good for uh, a business relationship that you have that

[teal_cooper]:

Maybe that's good for a a business relationship. it is. it's great. it's great,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like structur chaos.

[teal_cooper]:

you. y.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, No, I could definitely relate to that though, and it's kind of something we

[teal_cooper]:

No, I could definitely relate. Igo and Sc. All the whel so touched on was like

[clayton_cuteri]:

also touched on. was like you know that that need for structure versus that

[teal_cooper]:

you know, the the infrastructure versus like chaical, like, Oh, well, this just

[clayton_cuteri]:

chaotic. like. Oh, well, this just feels right. And it's it's so ho. I mean,

[teal_cooper]:

feels right. It's it's so hardr I mean, I can only speak for myself. But and

[clayton_cuteri]:

I can only speak for myself. But and maybe it's a masculine quality where

[teal_cooper]:

maybe it's a masculline quaality where it's just like so hard for you to kind

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's just like so hard for you to kind of

[teal_cooper]:

to

[clayton_cuteri]:

put your

[teal_cooper]:

put your faith in something else. You know something else.

[clayton_cuteri]:

faith in something else. You know something else mystical. Some else that's

[teal_cooper]:

Something else. that's not. you. Like to trust your gut in a sense. Yeah, but I

[clayton_cuteri]:

not you like to trust your gut In a sense.

[teal_cooper]:

like if you refraine thinking that it's not you. it is you. You know

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's a good point. Well, that's that's getting pretty deep though there,

[teal_cooper]:

that's a good point. Well, that's that's getting pretty deep though there. Yeah, it's like you just don't think of that. I don't think about it as like it's not me. I think about it. If it's like the you know there, real me,

[clayton_cuteri]:

the O. the authentic.

[teal_cooper]:

the O. the authentic. Yeah, it's like your soul

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

versus like your're human. You, your ego, versus like your're human. You, your ego,

[clayton_cuteri]:

so I guess it would be more of ego protection that would be keeping you from

[teal_cooper]:

So I guess it would be more of ego protection That would be keeping you from

[clayton_cuteri]:

trusting your gut feeling.

[teal_cooper]:

trusting your gut feeling. Yeah, for sure, 'cause the ego is like the brain. I's trying to say. you know. Oh, but that's not rational. Oh, like it castlights yourself. like you guesss. like yourself saying like, why are you know second guessing everything you're You're intuitively feeling And then you know maybe you'll do what your ego wants and you're like. I should have not listened to that and it made me get into a situation where now I, you know I regret it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's funny. Uh, when you were kind of like talking about that, I have

[teal_cooper]:

It's funny. Uh, when you were kind of like talking about that, I have actually

[clayton_cuteri]:

actually kind of experienced the opposite where I get that like intuitive

[teal_cooper]:

kind of experienced the opposite where I get that like intuitive download. and

[clayton_cuteri]:

download. and maybe it's kind of the same thing. but there's like one

[teal_cooper]:

maybe it's kind of the same thing. but there's like one particular interest

[clayton_cuteri]:

particular interest like sticking out where you get that like I got a

[teal_cooper]:

like sticking out where you get the like. I got a download. Let's say that it

[clayton_cuteri]:

download. Let's say that it was like Okay. Essentially something was never

[teal_cooper]:

was like Okay. Essentially something was never going to happen again and I was

[clayton_cuteri]:

going to happen again and I was like I was like, No, fuck that like. I'm

[teal_cooper]:

like I was like. Nope, fuck that like. I'm gonna put all my ego into making

[clayton_cuteri]:

going to put all my ego into making that thing happen again. And you know

[teal_cooper]:

that thing happen again. and you know now we're sitting here. It still hasn't,

[clayton_cuteri]:

now we're sitting here. It still hasn't, but it like it's become that it

[teal_cooper]:

but it like it's become the. It becomes this like force of just like

[clayton_cuteri]:

becomes this like force of just like like wanting. It's It's like fighting yourself. almost. It's like I want

[teal_cooper]:

like wanting. It's It's like fighting yourself. almost. It's like I want this

[clayton_cuteri]:

this to be wrong.

[teal_cooper]:

to be wrong.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's like I want this intuitive thing to be wrong, so that I'm right, But

[teal_cooper]:

It's like I want this intuitive thing to be wrong, so that I'm right, But

[clayton_cuteri]:

meanwhile, like you said, it's still a part of you. It's like you're having

[teal_cooper]:

meanwhile, like you said, it's still a part of you. It's like you're having

[clayton_cuteri]:

this internal war over something that isn't necessary

[teal_cooper]:

this internal war over something that isn't necessary. Yeah, it's like you're battling with yourself. It's like why can't we just become an alignment and not be fighting S.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and it's so interesting because I'm trying to relate this to my one thing.

[teal_cooper]:

And it's so interesting because I'm trying to relate this to my one thing, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

but maybe there's a level of like. there's that societal or cultural imprint

[teal_cooper]:

maybe there's a level of like. there's that societal or cultural imprint like

[clayton_cuteri]:

that gets placed and is more

[teal_cooper]:

Get's placed, and is more

[clayton_cuteri]:

guarded by your ego or your. your ego almost attaches. Maybe more to the

[teal_cooper]:

guarded by your ego or your. your ego almost attaches. Maybe more to the

[clayton_cuteri]:

culture, societal stigma. And so that

[teal_cooper]:

culture, societal stigma. And so that

[clayton_cuteri]:

I don't know,

[teal_cooper]:

I don't know, Maybe I'm up to. I'm up for a debate on that one, but I'm just

[clayton_cuteri]:

Maybe I'm up to. I'm up for debate on that one, but I'm just spp on here.

[teal_cooper]:

spp on here. But then that like covers up your true

[clayton_cuteri]:

But then that like covers up your true authentic self or that thing that is

[teal_cooper]:

authentic self or that thing that is for your highest good or best interest.

[clayton_cuteri]:

for your highest good or best interest.

[teal_cooper]:

I feel like you tell you what you're talking about 'cause that you kind of lost me there

[clayton_cuteri]:

that, um,

[teal_cooper]:

like I know. like I know.

[clayton_cuteri]:

oh, I getting a little too. uhm too vague. maybe,

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, I getting a little too too vague. Maybe yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

um,

[teal_cooper]:

I think it's too big. I can't. um, I never understand where you're going with it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, I mean, I guess I'm I guess I'm kind of trying to keep it back because

[teal_cooper]:

Well, I mean it isn't. I guess I'm I guess I'm kind of trying to keep it back

[clayton_cuteri]:

I want it to be a more metaphysical conversation right, as opposed to this

[teal_cooper]:

because I want it to be a more metaphysical conversation right. I' got to ask

[clayton_cuteri]:

like specific instance.

[teal_cooper]:

this like specific instance.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm thinking it.

[teal_cooper]:

It frame what you're saying.

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay. let's try to restart that and still a little rewind.

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, let's try to restart that and do a little rewind. Do you hear my dogger? Is it Okay?

[clayton_cuteri]:

No, I haven't heard him yet.

[teal_cooper]:

No, I haven't heard him yet. Okay, bringin a lot

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, okay, yeah, well, double check on the on, the real or the real the clip?

[teal_cooper]:

making saa. Yeah. Well, double check on the on the real or the real the clip?

[clayton_cuteri]:

whatever it's called. Um, I'm believes about your thought.

[teal_cooper]:

whatever it's called. Um, I'm losing about your thought.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh man. uh, what were we talking about? the ego and

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, man. uh, what were we talking about? the ego and

[clayton_cuteri]:

something else? Oh, fighting yourself getting into itit. If download.

[teal_cooper]:

something else? Oh, fighting yourself getting into it if download getting

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

intol.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, so

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, so

[clayton_cuteri]:

H.

[teal_cooper]:

hm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

like if there's

[teal_cooper]:

like if there's

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's like that car right, let's use the car for it. Well, I guess we're

[teal_cooper]:

it's like that car right, Let's use the car for it. Well, I guess we're getting

[clayton_cuteri]:

getting into a specific example, but if it's like a car that you want, and

[teal_cooper]:

into a specific example. but if it's like a car that you want, and like you,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like you, get this intuition that you're never going to get the car. But

[teal_cooper]:

get this intuition that you're never going to get the car. But you're still

[clayton_cuteri]:

your egos still saying there, saying no. we're going to get it. We're going

[teal_cooper]:

sitting there saying like no, We're going to do it. We're going to make it

[clayton_cuteri]:

to make it happen. You know this is what the way is you know. it's like What

[teal_cooper]:

happen. You know this is what the way is. You know. it's like a what? love or

[clayton_cuteri]:

level are you now just

[teal_cooper]:

you know, just

[clayton_cuteri]:

fighting at? Like, are you fighting the Ger? Maybe it's more just like

[teal_cooper]:

fighting. Like, are you fighting the jour? Maybe it's more of just like

[clayton_cuteri]:

fighting the journey.

[teal_cooper]:

fighting the journey. I see what you're saying. You're like trying to control the outcome the to where you're not letting things like flow and play out and surrendering to like the universe.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I guess so I heard that. I'm not sure if that was, but I heard that

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, I guess so I heard that. I'm not sure thought that was, but my dog is studyting the worst, a puppy and just like crying like crazy.

[clayton_cuteri]:

it is getting animated.

[teal_cooper]:

Fine home. He'll get over it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

He's been good so far.

[teal_cooper]:

He's been good so far, but yeah, no, I, I don't know. it's like. I think everyone kind of like. I guess for my own spiritual journey, Did you ever rejurney of souls? I forget if we talked about this, I think you recommended it, but I haven't gone

[clayton_cuteri]:

No, I think you recommended it, but I haven't gotten it into yet.

[teal_cooper]:

the 'cause. that to me was like the What opened my eyes to like, actual spiritual. and like not. I don't even know if it's considered spirituality like. I guess the state of conscence is the consciousness that I'm currently living in,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay. It's got to like the next, the next uh level.

[teal_cooper]:

and like next next it's just gone me to my own to Wh how I view the world now, like my outlook and my views of like how the universe works And I feel like like what you're saying with men vers women like, I think a lot of men actually have a guy friend who loved two guy friends who love the book and like, really, really, Um, resonated with it and they, their outlooks changed too, so I don't know. I think just a lot more men have a lot of uh, pushback. You know, they need more rational proof, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, let's talk about the book for a bit, cause I see it says it's a case

[teal_cooper]:

it just depends we'. talking about the book for' All study of life between

[clayton_cuteri]:

study of life between lives.

[teal_cooper]:

loves.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So is it

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, so basically and what's interesting is there's two other books out there, very similar, written by different people written by it. So they're written by Hynoth rapist where they get thousands of people like their patients into a hypnotic state and it's like a subconscious hypnotic state where they get them into where they're asking them all these questions and they all say the same thing, which is like you can't make that up, like for meals Like there's just. there's no way all these patients like get into hypnotic states and regurgitate the same information throughout three different authors, three different books. All these case studies and it's so interesting because it's Journey of souls. It's the journey of what happens to when you you die, and like what happens in Spirit world, like in the afterworld the other side,

[clayton_cuteri]:

And is that what they're repeating? Is that what they like repeating? that's

[teal_cooper]:

and when I read about work, the repeuting. I like reputingative. Yeah, exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

been validated

[teal_cooper]:

and it, You goes into so many different realms because there is you know, the part where you when you first cross over, and then there's what happens in Spear worldd, on the other side, and they all go into different different parts of the journey and it's all crossed over. Like the. I mean, not cross thever. It's all like, Um, I guess there's a bunch of cross overver, like they all say a lot of the same things And it's they all say the same messages throughout the different books too, which is so interesting. But when I read this book for the first time, it was like In ahaw it was like, Oh my God, I know this like. I felt like I was remembering it for the first time, but it wasn't like I was learning it. It was more of a remembrance and it felt so deeply true to me and I, I don't know. It's like one of those things where I just intuitively felt like this was so right and it's changed my entire outlook of how I view the world, and I mean I can get into it too. on. Like what, the basic, like I

[clayton_cuteri]:

please. I amm interested to hear what what these commonalities are?

[teal_cooper]:

is a commonal, and I guess the main takeaways that I had from it are essentially that we're all souls there, all these infinite beings right and we werere all one and we're all connected and we reincarnate into these human bodies that we choose for ourselves like we preslect our life in Spirit world. And basically we all have our own like soul, cluster and crew of the same people that we reincarnate with together. So essentially the metaphor they give is it'. Life is kind of like a play, and you, you all pick different characters you're going to play in each life together, and the purpose is to really learn certain lessons in this life. and you all have your own roles that you play and you come to life on earth, And we know that life on Earth is like the hardest fucking planet. To Ha. It's like very dense here like we know that going into it, and we incre knowing that, and we, we come here and knowing like. What lessons are we really trying to learn, and what comic cycles are we here to break? And the whole purpose is to really evolve and ascend as souls, And it's like you're all evolving and as snding together in your cluster, and like getting to the next level. So it's like you come here and you fuck up. you do it all over again, kind of thing,

[clayton_cuteri]:

one.

[teal_cooper]:

and it's so interesting 'cause it's like kind of gaifies life in a sense where you're like. I mean you should it not take life seriously, but you also should like have fun with life, because it's like you know what I mean. It's like you should come here and want like, try to be the best person you possibly can and obviously not like. Think it's a joke 'cause it's karma's real and cause an effect, But it's like if you understand how to leverage these different laws of the universe of, like you were saying, love of assumption, attachment, like it's all energy. We're all connected and it's like once we can leverage that we can actually like. Have fun playing this game and know how it works. Like leverage it to our ad. Daantagerd go. I know, but this book like changed my life. and it. I don't

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, there's a little white there to break down,

[teal_cooper]:

know. I have friends who didn't like it. It's I, but there's. I guess they like other books that were similar like the other ones I met was mentioning. But'cause this one's pretty repetitive and I mean, I loved it

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I'm inrre state if people listening felt the same way. But like, even as

[teal_cooper]:

interested if people listening felt the same way. But like, even as you were

[clayton_cuteri]:

you were talking about, like what was the phrase you used? you said

[teal_cooper]:

talking about, like, what was the phrase you do? said something about like you

[clayton_cuteri]:

something about like you know your soldi are together, and then reenacting

[teal_cooper]:

know your souls are together and I'm reenacting out this play like I could kind

[clayton_cuteri]:

out this play like I could kind of feel tears coming to my eyes like I like

[teal_cooper]:

of feel tears coming to my eyes like I like, not in a sad way, but like in a

[clayton_cuteri]:

not in a sad way, but like in that knowing way that you were talking about

[teal_cooper]:

knowing way that you were talking about where It's like those overwhelming

[clayton_cuteri]:

where It's like this overwhelming energy coming out of nowhere. That's like

[teal_cooper]:

energy coming out of nowhere. It's like making me cry right. and that's how I

[clayton_cuteri]:

making me cry,

[teal_cooper]:

felt. The whole book was like I fucking knew this. This is all feel so real. Insight of me And that's your intuition and your soul saying like Yes. It's like you're remembering like we're supposed to remember. You know, at least if you're not everyone's supposed to remember. I think some people aren't meant to wake up in this life, but I think as a collective more people are waking up now than ever, And it's conversations like this. I can inspire it for people. You know what I mean

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I mean that comes back to the whole correct of why I started this

[teal_cooper]:

and I mean it comes back to the whole correct of while I started this podcast,

[clayton_cuteri]:

podcast. I guess was to go on to this and to discover the stuff from myself

[teal_cooper]:

I totally to go on to this and to discover the stuff for myself and talk to the

[clayton_cuteri]:

and talk to the people who are discovering it and

[teal_cooper]:

people who are discovering it. And

[clayton_cuteri]:

shit, I mean, this book definitely got higher up on my list.

[teal_cooper]:

shoot, I mean, this book definitely got higher on my list. No, yeah, I mean it. it was Ama. like it. It really made a huge impact on my life, And then what's crazy is you start reading other books in the spiritual category and they all say the same messages in different ways, So it's like it just starts making sense. All the puzzles start fitting together. Everything starts clicking and you just start like having more and more breakthroughs every day, But it's like you can read something one day and then you read it like it gets merred back to you in real life, and then it will click and you have this awhamo man and you're like Oh my God, it all makes sense and

[clayton_cuteri]:

You

[teal_cooper]:

it just continues to happen over and over

[clayton_cuteri]:

you get like this, like validation somehow from the outside world, Like you

[teal_cooper]:

again. You get like this like validation somehow from the outside world, like

[clayton_cuteri]:

said, enough time internally, Then the outside worlds, like Y, here you go.

[teal_cooper]:

you, Sp. enough time interernallyve the outside world' like Yep, here you go. Yeah, you have to learn it yourself like someone else can't tell you it for you to learn it,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and this probably leads to a a great way for business. It's like you can

[teal_cooper]:

and this probably into a great way for business. It's like you can read all the

[clayton_cuteri]:

read all the business books in the world, but until you start your own

[teal_cooper]:

business books in the world, But until you start your own business, you have

[clayton_cuteri]:

business, you have no idea how to do it

[teal_cooper]:

know what idea how to do it exactly And I think starting your own business and being entrepreneur teaches you. I think it's like a a flash course on self. Can you hear that?

[clayton_cuteri]:

a little bit

[teal_cooper]:

Oh my God, it's like self discovery. It's like you learn so much about yourself through entrepreneurship because it really challenges you and pushes you to a core. And I think Yeah, from business books and learning through other. you know people's stories on podcast. That's not going to really like. Teach you how to start your own business,

[clayton_cuteri]:

right right? I mean, you just have to start doing it. It's like even even

[teal_cooper]:

right right? I mean, you just have to start doing it. It's like even even

[clayton_cuteri]:

podcasting, for instance, you can listen to five hundred podcast. But that

[teal_cooper]:

podcasting, for instance, like you can listen to five hundred podcast. Because

[clayton_cuteri]:

doesn't mean that you can just start and set up your own podcast and start

[teal_cooper]:

doesn't mean that you can just start to set up your own podcast and start

[clayton_cuteri]:

pressing record. I mean, I don't know. I guess you kind of can. Maybe that's

[teal_cooper]:

pressing record. I mean I don't know. I just kinda, um, maybe that's a bu, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

a bad analogy.

[teal_cooper]:

it's cure. like when I was listening to podcast before I started my own. I was always listening to the guest right and then once I started my own, I started listening to the the host and it changes your whole perspective 'cause you don't realize how hard it is to actually, um, guide a conversation and be a host versus, like the guest. It changes your whole thought process around it, and it made me start to overthink actually, the hos side of things, because I was never thinking about it like that beforehand and then you start it yourself and you're like Oh shit, like I actually have to guide this. and um, you know control where the comtition goes. It also allow to flow and then stay present in the conversation. It's just like a lot goes on your in your mind where you don't think about that before you start it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

No,

[teal_cooper]:

No,

[clayton_cuteri]:

there's actually a good point, because even like it's like as you' talking,

[teal_cooper]:

that's actually a good point. because even like it's like, as you're talking,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I'm trying to,

[teal_cooper]:

I'm trying to,

[clayton_cuteri]:

there's like this mixture of me trying to listen to what you're saying and

[teal_cooper]:

there's like this, a mixture of you trying to listen to what you're saying and

[clayton_cuteri]:

then okay if she ends it after this sentence. What am I thinking of? You

[teal_cooper]:

then okay if she ends up after this friends. What am I of you know? to kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

know to kind of keep that conversation going.

[teal_cooper]:

keep the conversation going on exactly, And that's a skill. I think that's something that you have to practice And it's not something that. At least for me, it wasn't it. I didn't think about having to have to have that skill beforehand.

[clayton_cuteri]:

You didn't think about having Yeah, You kind of just like have been flowing

[teal_cooper]:

You't think about having. Yeah, you kind of just like have been flown with it?

[clayton_cuteri]:

with it.

[teal_cooper]:

Well, No, I was always just thinking about it from the guest side of things. listening to

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh,

[teal_cooper]:

podcast. I never thought about it. I was like. Oh, that person actually asks great questions to, and you know, Uh, create this like amazing conversation that just flows so effortlessly

[clayton_cuteri]:

and it's kind of yeah. something to you know. Give the credit where doe,

[teal_cooper]:

and that's kind of Yeah. something to you know. Give the credit word dude, like

[clayton_cuteri]:

like you, kind of have to see that balance right of. You know where what you

[teal_cooper]:

you kind of have to see that balance right of. you know where what you pick up

[clayton_cuteri]:

pick up on to talk about next? It's like where are we going after this?

[teal_cooper]:

on to talk about Americax. It's like where are we going after this? Like you

[clayton_cuteri]:

You's It's finding the right words that are the right items that have like

[teal_cooper]:

know. it's It's finding the right words, that, or the right items, that of like

[clayton_cuteri]:

the most charge to them or something like that Where you want. Just pick up

[teal_cooper]:

the most charge to them or something like that Where you want Just pick up on

[clayton_cuteri]:

on those threads and kind of try to pull those strings.

[teal_cooper]:

those throads and kind of try to pull those strings totally.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So where what's up with? Uh, Vndy, Bean are going to flick back to that real

[teal_cooper]:

So W. what's up with? Uh vndybam, I're going to Fll, flick back to that. Oh

[clayton_cuteri]:

quick. What's the latest? there?

[teal_cooper]:

yeah'. so much is going on. I'm really excited about this year in particular, just because it's kind of like the Year of innovation for us, and the Year of partnerships, and I guess right now we have a hundred and eighty machines out

[clayton_cuteri]:

Wow,

[teal_cooper]:

in the wild, and we're currently like set up shopping, Um Southern California, like Orange County, l a San Diego, Dallas, Texas, North Carolina, like the Triangle area, And then we're opening up Seattle this next quarter

[clayton_cuteri]:

let me let me cut you off real quickcause. I just realized that we're

[teal_cooper]:

and let me get you off real quick, 'cause I just realized that we're already on

[clayton_cuteri]:

already on the ascent. You're You're going back up. We need to. We need to

[teal_cooper]:

the ascent. You're You're going back up. We need to. We need to travel it back

[clayton_cuteri]:

drop it back because you said in twenty twenty whenever everything kind of

[teal_cooper]:

because you said in twenty twenty whenever everything kind of oh down. I, You

[clayton_cuteri]:

fizzled down.

[teal_cooper]:

mean like I, I skipped the whole chapter. I, I'll I'll take the bline forward. Okay, because I know what you're

[clayton_cuteri]:

I, I'll I'll take the blame for it being the host. I.

[teal_cooper]:

talking about. Di. president.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I. I was. I was, but I just realiz that after you start talking, it's like

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, so let's go bad. I was. I was, but I rules. We started talking. It was

[clayton_cuteri]:

wait, wait. we need to hear that where you guys were when you're at the

[teal_cooper]:

like Wait, were we the where you guys were when you're the lowest? Okay, Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

lowest,

[teal_cooper]:

let's go back so back to cooved. Okay, so fast or rewind to January twenty twenty. We' like starting to hit our goals for the first time ever. We werere like about to hit our numbers. We were super excited. Were those numbers? It was gonna be like a million dollar company. so

[clayton_cuteri]:

What were these numbers?

[teal_cooper]:

basically a little over a hundred k a month,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[teal_cooper]:

and um on track. and then covet happens literally. And me, my brother and I were convinced it was going to be like a three week thing Like Okay, This will pass like, I'm sure, most people. A lot of people thought this like there was mes about it and you know my dad was like this isn't going anywhere. You guys need to get realistic and we're like No, no, No, like it'll pass. And then we actu. You know, like the rug gets ripped out from under us and we realized like Oh shit, and our revenue just like ninety five percent dropped. and I was in such a low place like I remember, for I, B. I think about two months straight. I just felt like depressed like I was like I have no purpose. I don't know what to do with myself. I went on long walks like hour long walks throughout the day. That's all I would do and listen to podcast and cry

[clayton_cuteri]:

Jeez,

[teal_cooper]:

like. I just felt so sad and low and thinking like you know, it was also hard'cause I had a lot of friends who had companies that were skyrocketing during this time and watching that like I was happy for them. But then seeing my company crumble I was like. Why did I choose this this industry? Like you know it. It just made me question everything of Like what? Why is the universe doing this to me Like questioning my policef on manifestation everything. And that was probably like two and a half three months. And then I went to this rock that I go to like overlooking the ocean, and I just had this melt down And I remember um, crying and then just asking the universe, like what do I do? Like What going to happen? I'm so scared. Like something we've been putting our like blood, sweat and tears into the past four or five years is essentially like crumbling to pieces and could be completely destroyed And I just felt this like a wave rush over me of surrender Like out of nowhere it was like this feeling and I was like everything's going to be okay. I need to stop focusing on everything that's going wrong and just start focusing on having fun and feeling joy again. And this was just like an intuitive feeling that I had, And so I made a conscious effort to put my energy into things like that. I could enjoy and learn and have fun. doing so for me. Like at that time that was tick talk like I loved toick, talk. It was like up and coming. I had so much on this app. I was learnning these dances with my friends doing all these pranks. Like, have the time of my life on this appp. Right, not getting anything out of it besides just having fun and then my brother introduced me Drop Shipping. I took a course on drop shipping. Started making shop of my websites for fun and it was just like learning new skills and having a lot of fun doing it. I took this like other random course and then Tris and I decided to start dabbling with creating our own direct consumer coffee products, so we started Um. We got. Well, We first also got Um. s. B A loans, so that helps us stay afloat During this time, so we were started having fun branding creating our own like product line, morphing, or migrating website to shop a Fi and having fun doing that And then as like, we're in the process of like, really in like having fun in this creative Um process. This uh marine reach out to us on Facebook and said, like, in an a, Facebook, G, M, and said I can get you guys on Camp Fton's military base,

[clayton_cuteri]:

one,

[teal_cooper]:

And I remember thinking like there's just no way this is real. Like this guy's full of shit. So I told Trused, and he was like, Yeah, I mean, let's talk to him. See what he says Like, Yeah, for sure, So we um talked him on the phone. He seems like a very genuine guy. Uh, we met him in person. one meeting, let to the next meeting. When mean like then, he led you know, introduce this to the Director of procurement at Camp Penaltton, One thing, let' to the next, and we got a contract with Camp Penilton, First military contract, Twenty machines on Camp Penilton's military base, And it was like this massive eye opening experience to a whole niche that we've never touched right. This whole new market of military that doesn't close down in a pandemics, 'cause the military doesn't close, And so it showed me that once you start feeling good and being high vibed like you're you become a magnet for attracting opportunities to you versus you're sulking and sad and depressed and feeling so low. Like the second I stopped caring about it, something popped in and it was a total miracle, you know, and it opened my eyes to so much and so now we're on five military bases and just growing And it really did save us during Cobon, and luckily from there things started opening up. We got you know business hard. coming back. Schools are not schools but offices. Companies started to coming back 'cause we do corporate office coffee as well with as well as like retail for college campuses, hospitals and military now, But we have two models, so essentially every that we serviced was closed at the time.

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's

[teal_cooper]:

Go war

[clayton_cuteri]:

something I want to try to focus in on. You said you were saying that it was

[teal_cooper]:

something I want to try to focus on on. You. said your motor was kind of like

[clayton_cuteri]:

kind of like all gone wrong. You had like a self do self criticism.

[teal_cooper]:

all going wrong. You had like a soelf do self criticism

[clayton_cuteri]:

and then there was a pivot and you said that there was like a wave that came

[teal_cooper]:

and then there was Avot, and you said that there was like a Wve that came over

[clayton_cuteri]:

over you that said surrender, And then after that everything kind of took

[teal_cooper]:

sort, surrender, and then after that everything kind of took off.

[clayton_cuteri]:

off. Was it something that you read or heard or you were doing that Like invoked

[teal_cooper]:

Was it something that you readde or heard what you were doing, But like invoked

[clayton_cuteri]:

this feeling of surrender.

[teal_cooper]:

this feeling of surrender. I honestly don't remember if there was anything I' read. I think it was just this feeling that I had intuitively like. In that moment it was like a download in a sense, and then also during this period like it was after that I read a Journey of souls. It all like in that chunk of Cobid, where I had nothing to do was when I started reading spiritual books, and Duringy sould was the first one. so that was like a very interesting time period 'cause I really started becoming more conscious and aware and like tapping into spirituality. So thats that started playing a role in my life, which is interesting. but yeah, I don't remember if it was before after I read the book, but I want to say it was before I read the book that I had that experience.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's interesting because you had that experience and then the books found you and

[teal_cooper]:

That's interest experience when Um, the books followed you and then the military. I found you

[clayton_cuteri]:

then this military guy found you and then now it's taken off.

[teal_cooper]:

and I, Yeah, off. totally. it's it just shows you that there's no coincidences you know. like everything' so synchronistic

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's interesting was something that I, one of my buddies on an earlier

[teal_cooper]:

As soon as I know something wrote I, one of my brothers on an earlier podcast,

[clayton_cuteri]:

podcast, James. He, he was asking me, Do you believe everything is?

[teal_cooper]:

James, who he was asking? me. like you know, Do you believe everything is?

[clayton_cuteri]:

Everything happens for a reason

[teal_cooper]:

Everything happens for Ruza

[clayton_cuteri]:

and was like, At the time I didn't really know what to say, but I mean, now

[teal_cooper]:

and I was like. At the time I didn't really know what. The? so. But I mean

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's like, Yeah, I mean, and it's

[teal_cooper]:

well, it's like, Yeah, I, it's like

[clayton_cuteri]:

to me that something that you could prove it the most logical sense and then

[teal_cooper]:

to me that's something that you could prove with the most logical sense I, you

[clayton_cuteri]:

you spiritually as well,

[teal_cooper]:

know spiritually as well, Yeah, and it's like I can look back and say so many reasons. Why Why Co it happened for me That helped me. You know. like, if it weren't for Cobat, I would have never learned about detachment truthfully it like taught me it. I needed to learn in a really hard way to like knock me off my feet, or else I would have never fully detached and I would have never had the awakening to realize that my whole self worth was revolved around my business, or else you know, 'cause I, I never felt. So you know I felt like I had zero purpose when Venbine wasn't existent for a couple of months, and like not normal, like you shouldn't feel that way. And so I needed that experience to happen to show me all this. And you know I think it was. It did a lot of things for a lot of people. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

sounds like a parakeet.

[teal_cooper]:

sounds like a parake dog. I, it's so distracting. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

You. You're doing great job. I've only heard him a couple times. You push

[teal_cooper]:

wanna like you. You're doing a great job. I only heard ' a couple of times he'

[clayton_cuteri]:

it.

[teal_cooper]:

going off. I'm glad you can't hear him that much. Oh my God, and it' also interesting the thought, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um, you're talking about how covet has been devastating for some people, but

[teal_cooper]:

um, you were talking about how cover has been devastating for some people, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

for you it seems like it's

[teal_cooper]:

for you it's well, No. I think it's been devastating for a lot of people. but even the people who was devastating for like they learned something from it like it taught them something that they might not realize it at that moment, but they look back and it. It gave them the chance to be able to reflect and and go inward and realize like Okay, I, I actually hate my job and I shouldn't be doing this anymore. or you know, whatever the realization was,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, I was. I was in that same exact boat. I mean to me it.

[teal_cooper]:

I mean I was. I was in that same exact boat. I mean to me it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I. I think it probably highlights a very

[teal_cooper]:

I, I think it probably highlights a very

[clayton_cuteri]:

probably life.

[teal_cooper]:

probably life.

[clayton_cuteri]:

How do I want to phrase this like something that we can all point to Right.

[teal_cooper]:

To't wantnna. phrase this. It's like something that we can all point to Right.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's like Okay, this tragic thing happened to everybody. Right, it happened

[teal_cooper]:

it's like Okay, This tragic thing happened to everybody. Right, it happened to

[clayton_cuteri]:

to all of us, so we can all say that we've all been impacted by it in some

[teal_cooper]:

all of us, so we can all say that we've all been impacted by it in some way

[clayton_cuteri]:

way, shape or form.

[teal_cooper]:

should perform.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I think it

[teal_cooper]:

I think it really kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

really kind of it, kind of was a reset, but in a sense where it's like okay,

[teal_cooper]:

it, kind of was a ret butt. in the sense where it's like Okay, we're going to

[clayton_cuteri]:

we're going to see the people who want to be a victim to what has occurred

[teal_cooper]:

see the people who want to be a victim to W has occurred and then we're going

[clayton_cuteri]:

and then we're going to see the people who actually want to just you know,

[teal_cooper]:

to see the people who actually want. Just you know, get up other boot straps or

[clayton_cuteri]:

get up their boot straps or focus on the positives, and kind of, really,

[teal_cooper]:

focus on the positives, and kind of really,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I don't want to say you know, divide, but it it, It kind of has like

[teal_cooper]:

I don't want to say you know, divide, but it it. It kind of has like

[clayton_cuteri]:

highlighted the people that have gone either way or or still trying to make

[teal_cooper]:

highlightded the people that have gone either way or or still trying to make

[clayton_cuteri]:

that way towards the positive.

[teal_cooper]:

that way towards the positive. Definitely, and I think I went through all the phases I had. The first was Vict down, and then I was like, Okay, what? how do I, you know, get out of this low head space and then I learn that and then I realized way later, looking back. Oh, that's why that happened for me. You know. It's like didn't happen to me happen for me, and I think once people shift their mindset then they can start to realize what they actually gain from the experience,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Which is really the crux of it right Is like sometimes you don't know why

[teal_cooper]:

which is really the corrux of the right is like. sometimes you don't know why

[clayton_cuteri]:

things are going to happen are happening to you right now. But then like

[teal_cooper]:

things are going to happen are happening to you right now. But then like once

[clayton_cuteri]:

once you look back on them, you're like. Oh, like that gave me that

[teal_cooper]:

you look back on them, you're like Oh, like that gave me that perspective.

[clayton_cuteri]:

perspective. It's like you know. I don't understand why I just got swindled

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, it's like you know I, I don't understand why I just got swindled for nine

[clayton_cuteri]:

for nine hundred dollars. It's like Well, let's so you could learn how to

[teal_cooper]:

hundred dollars. It's like well, so you could learn how to knock it swindled

[clayton_cuteri]:

knock it. Swindled for nine thousand dollars. You know. it's

[teal_cooper]:

for nine thousand dollars. Exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah. it's one of those like

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, it's one of those like

[clayton_cuteri]:

it. It's almost like you need to learn how to manage your money before you

[teal_cooper]:

it. It's almost like you need to learn how to manage your money before you

[clayton_cuteri]:

become rich. Kind of thingcause. It's like otherwise you're just going to

[teal_cooper]:

become a rich kind of thing, 'cause it's like. otherwise you're just going to

[clayton_cuteri]:

burn it all.

[teal_cooper]:

burn it all. Definitely like, and for me, and that whole experience of learning detachment and learning about. you know my self worth and identity and

[clayton_cuteri]:

He's getting out of control.

[teal_cooper]:

who's getting out of control? Sha, I go them really quick.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um,

[teal_cooper]:

It's like getting home or

[clayton_cuteri]:

what do you think? I mean Y, you had to get out of here relatively soon.

[teal_cooper]:

what? do you think? I mean, you had to get out of here relatively so I don't know. It's just it. It's just really screing with the audio. I think need like move is another room.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, maybe maybe he's just signaling, but it's our time to uh, wrap it up.

[teal_cooper]:

Well, maybe maybe he's just signalling, but it's our time to. maybe it's like rapid up the struggles of a puppy. Oh

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, let's let's put on the. I mean, look, I think it's been an excellent.

[teal_cooper]:

w. it is Easi. I mean, look, I think it's been an excellent. Uh, what is it

[clayton_cuteri]:

uh. what is it? hour and a half conversation?

[teal_cooper]:

hour and a half conversation get? I mean, I've been having such a fine time. It has and feel like an hour and a half. It's just it's curling by.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's crazy right. Well, let's let's definitely do this again and then we'll make sure that the

[teal_cooper]:

Well, let's let's definitely do this again. Yeah, then we'll make sure that the

[clayton_cuteri]:

dog is a little less of a puppy.

[teal_cooper]:

dog is a little less of a puppy. It's like I don't even know where to where I would put him n hopefully separation anxiety Like he gos out of it. Sure he

[clayton_cuteri]:

I think so it's they're adaptable right.

[teal_cooper]:

will. I think so it's they're adaptable, right he

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well, what's interesting is I, I got my dog. She's sleeping behind me right

[teal_cooper]:

help? Well, what's interesting is I I got my dog. She's sleeping behind me. Now

[clayton_cuteri]:

now. you can kind of see in the picture.

[teal_cooper]:

you can kind ofe than' jealous.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh, I had to tire out to get to the state. But what was what something was

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, I had to ti out to go to the state. But what was what? something was crazy

[clayton_cuteri]:

crazy was? and I, you touch on about, like the soul family kind of thing is,

[teal_cooper]:

was when I, you touch on about like the sole family kind of thing is. I started

[clayton_cuteri]:

I started applying that be cause I'm dogh sitting right now. So it's just

[teal_cooper]:

applying the 'cause I'm dos iner right now, So it's just been me and her for

[clayton_cuteri]:

been me and her for the last eight days

[teal_cooper]:

the last eight days

[clayton_cuteri]:

And you know that feeling into intuition and like, really like trying to pay

[teal_cooper]:

And you know that feeling into intuition and like, really, like trying to pay

[clayton_cuteri]:

attention to it. I like the phrase twin flame like I'm like. I, I like. I

[teal_cooper]:

attention to it. I like the free twin flame like I'm like. I, I like. I felt it

[clayton_cuteri]:

felt it really strong when I looked at her one time and I was like, Are you

[teal_cooper]:

really strong when I looked at her one time and I was like, Are you like my

[clayton_cuteri]:

like my twin flame Like

[teal_cooper]:

twin for him like

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I got.

[teal_cooper]:

I are you? Do you learn what that term was before

[clayton_cuteri]:

I. I still don't fully know what it means. I've heard other people reference

[teal_cooper]:

you felt that? I still don't fully know what it means? I've heard other people reference other people in the light, but I don't really like. Know,

[clayton_cuteri]:

other people in that light, but I don't really like. Know, Like the whole, what is it? Tell me what it means to you

[teal_cooper]:

Like the whole, what is it? Tell me what it means to you. To be honest, I'm not an ex on twin flames like I have friends who are twins and it have expressed to me I've been a part of their journey and so I'm like close to it, but I don't want to butcher it and I think there's so many different types of twinflamed experiences and journeys that there's not one size fiits. All I've never heard of a twin

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[teal_cooper]:

planing experience where it's a human and a dog,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh,

[teal_cooper]:

but there totally could be. you know, like the ones that I've experienced through friendship, S through my friends are romantic. It's like a guy in a gro.

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay,

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, um, but I've heard of it where it could be siblings or a family member. You know. it's like it's basically when your' soul split into two bodies.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh,

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, so

[clayton_cuteri]:

I,

[teal_cooper]:

half are half of your souls in a different body, And it's

[clayton_cuteri]:

so the int intuitive intuition I have around twin flame is just that it's

[teal_cooper]:

you know, So the int intuitive intuition I have around twin flam is just that

[clayton_cuteri]:

like someone who knows how to poke you and all the wrong ways. Kind of

[teal_cooper]:

it's like someone who knows how to poke you and all the wrong ways. kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

thing.

[teal_cooper]:

thing. Yeah, I mean, it's a very triggering experience. but it's like they. You guys are the

[clayton_cuteri]:

Is it kind of the same

[teal_cooper]:

same soul and it's like I don't even feel like I. I'm worthy of talking aboutticcause I don't know enough about it and I don't want to puch your it 'cause everyone has their own experience and it's like a very sacred thing like I, I don't have that experience to share about it. So it's like

[clayton_cuteri]:

Gota?

[teal_cooper]:

Gosh, I see it first hand and I'm like. I don't think I want a twin.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay, I'll have to find a twin flameper Because, because, just in that the

[teal_cooper]:

A. I'll have to fond a twin flpert, because you' some the way that you kind of

[clayton_cuteri]:

way that you kind of phrase that to me it hits

[teal_cooper]:

phs. the commutes is like well,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like

[teal_cooper]:

like

[clayton_cuteri]:

infery. Aren't you a fragment of my soul and my soul? A fragment of my soul

[teal_cooper]:

inferiy. Aren't you a fragment of marscle and marscals, or fragment of marul.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Be cause. if we' all of source energy right, Wouldn't everything just be a

[teal_cooper]:

'cause if we're all totally W energy, we're all everything. Just be a fragment.

[clayton_cuteri]:

fragment?

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah, so we're all connected and come from the same source like we're all one and connected. but that doesn't. That's totally different than being one soul split into two bodies. So we all are independent individual souls. but we all come from the same source. So because of that we're all connecting wrong one. But your soul is created and has your own sole experiences in different lives that youve lived different. You know lessons and uh experiences. but when you're soul split into two it's like entirely different versus like us all being connected.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay, I was just going to you. I get what you're saying, but to me my mind

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, I was just go to say a a get where you're saying, but to me my mom's

[clayton_cuteri]:

still like well, I'm still kind of logically fighting it because to me it's

[teal_cooper]:

still like. Well, I'm still kind of logically foring it because to me it's like

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, she' a version of my soul, your version of my soul, but

[teal_cooper]:

well, choose a version of our soul, your version of our soul. No, totally we are, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[teal_cooper]:

it's different than like y, 'cause we all like your soul being split into two different bodies on Earth at the same time is a pretty crazy thing if you think about it, So it's like you're meeting yourself in real life. It's just in a different body and so usually when that happens, it's like this whole body whole consuming like feeling outer body experience. I've been told where it's like you can't. You're never the same after that like ever,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like after meeting this person,

[teal_cooper]:

and be personal. Yes, I've known this person and it's very triggering because if it's like meant to be it', if it's like a romantic thing it, there's usually some type of obstacle where it's like one person's more of like the teacher and more awaken the other person's not. And it's a very like it's It's all planned out before you come here, and you can't really control how it's supposed to happen and you want to, but you can't. And so it's like some twins are never meant to end up being together, or some are, And there's so many different types of journeys. I don't even know

[clayton_cuteri]:

I want to do

[teal_cooper]:

I do some. You should.

[clayton_cuteri]:

some research and see if I can find a twin flame expert.

[teal_cooper]:

You should actually get someone on and talk about it because I've heard it drills around a couple of times, but it's not a

[clayton_cuteri]:

That would be a good idea, be cause. I've heard it droped around a couple times, but like we even just sat here.

[teal_cooper]:

light hearted thing like whenever I have friend I got, have friends. talk about it or I've had friends in it. And it's it's a lot it change. You know, it takes over their life. A can.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Really?

[teal_cooper]:

really. Oh yeah, and it's it's something that's like a big, big part of their life. So

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, I feel

[teal_cooper]:

yeah, I feel like if I haven't stepped on twin fling people on off guardsing

[clayton_cuteri]:

like if I haven't stepped on twin flame people enough by saying that my dog is my twin fam, then I might want to reserve any other comments I have for

[teal_cooper]:

about my dog is North One Flo, and had more one a reserve, Iul Callmans Soho for an expert 'cause 'cause in my

[clayton_cuteri]:

an expert cause because in my mind it's just like. I mean there's people out

[teal_cooper]:

mind it's just like. I mean, there's people out that I've hung out with a

[clayton_cuteri]:

that I hung out with that trigger me right. but I just like let it go.

[teal_cooper]:

trigger me road, but I just like a want to go, but here's the thing is your

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, you?

[teal_cooper]:

dog. you and your dog could have a sole connection. You could have. Um, 'cause you have soul maates, like soulm To me is someone who's in your like you have a sole contract, right like you're You're meant to be with that person in his life for an next month of period of time, And you and your dog. when you looked into your dog's eyes and felt that you were a hundred percent have a sole connection, And you, you decided come to this life and have this bond and like experience this together, so you could totally have felt something, and it be spoted on. It just might not be a twin flame or a cut. I have no clue.

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay? I see what you're saying,

[teal_cooper]:

Okay, you could have Aw. twenty of dog. I just I don't know enough. I don't know about that. but like the people that trigger you, and

[clayton_cuteri]:

You' getting distracted by your dog.

[teal_cooper]:

this is so. I'm hoping it's like not. I want to plunnch him in the face,

[clayton_cuteri]:

You might not need it by the time you get over there.

[teal_cooper]:

but it's so By the time you get over there, Oh my god,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh, all right, Well,

[teal_cooper]:

or W, let's rup this open, because Um,

[clayton_cuteri]:

let's wrap this up then, because Um, you, obviously, y

[teal_cooper]:

Shi

[clayton_cuteri]:

will definitely

[teal_cooper]:

would definitely help you back

[clayton_cuteri]:

have you back on to have a more inepth conversation about twin flames once

[teal_cooper]:

more. those conversation about twin forms once we cross the roots. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

we cross that bridge.

[teal_cooper]:

definitely, um. So I'll give you the dey the floor for a little bit if you want

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um, so I'd give you give you the flloor for a little bit. If you want to plug anything and encourage people to do something.

[teal_cooper]:

to plug anything and encourage people to do something. Um, I guess you can find me on Um. Incdm. I just kieled out Cooper, and then my podcast is real with teal, and I guess I don't know what I would encourage people to do if I could say one thing. It would be to, I guess, to try and tune in more to your own, um, intuition in like your own path, instead of seeking answers outside of yourself, because I think at the end of the day we all know what's best for us more than anyone else does. And it's just counterproductive to you know, get answers and advice from other people when like, we know what we should be doing the most. If we just like tune in

[clayton_cuteri]:

Just tune in.

[teal_cooper]:

just tuna. Just tune it top in Med. like go. quiet, get quiet, and be alone long enough to like hear your own, Hear your soul speak to you.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Have you ever done like a hour long meditation?

[teal_cooper]:

I've ever done like a Our long motorsion. Uh, yeah, I've done. Joe dispenses before.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, okay, those are. Uh, I haven't done his specifically. but like when you

[teal_cooper]:

Oh, okay, those are. uh, Ab on who specifically when you're moditated for over

[clayton_cuteri]:

meditate for over an hour. That's when you start. Like,

[teal_cooper]:

an hour. That's when you start. Like

[clayton_cuteri]:

enjoy being alone and I'm just like this is getting weird.

[teal_cooper]:

enjoy being alone and I'm just like this is getting weird. Yeah, it's like I used to not enjoy being alone and now I love it and I think that it's something that's required in order to be able to hear yourself.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to to be able to know whenever it to you, versus like other people around

[teal_cooper]:

to to be able to know one of it to you, versus like other people around you

[clayton_cuteri]:

you that are putting it in

[teal_cooper]:

that are putting it in

[clayton_cuteri]:

feeding the system once. Uh,

[teal_cooper]:

feeding the system totally, 'cause your energy can get affected so easily by other people, and sometimes when you're around people like it can linger their energy until you are alone enough, and or like intentionally clear it, like I do a lot of clearing. Just like intention, like with the intentions, Just like clearing energy. That's that's in me. the's army. that's not mine

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

and actually like saying that out loud. I think also with being alone and getting your own like thoughts in order and being able to tune in and realizing Okay, maybe this is my sulvers ego or this is coming from someone else. That's been like projecting on to me. You know, I don't know.

[clayton_cuteri]:

no. I. I. where you're going with it like I kind of do that with my podcast

[teal_cooper]:

No, I, I do where you're going with it like I kind of do that with my pod, Cs,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like before before my episodes. I'll try to meditate for like thirty minutes

[teal_cooper]:

like before before my epodes. I'll try to motary for like thirty minutes

[clayton_cuteri]:

beforehand and then at the end of it I'll try to be like all right. Like tap

[teal_cooper]:

beforehd, and then at the end of it I'll try to be like or like talkmune to

[clayton_cuteri]:

me into. let's say like Teal's energy, so that we can have like a good

[teal_cooper]:

looks like Deals energy, so though we can have like your good podcast, and so

[clayton_cuteri]:

podcast and so that I'm ready. Know, ready for it out.

[teal_cooper]:

that I'm ready. you know, ready for it. I love that I do that too,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[teal_cooper]:

but not the meditating before I say like a. I'll say out loud, like to my guides Spirit guides, which I guess I don't really talk about, but that's in Journey of Souls, too. all about Sphirit guides, but

[clayton_cuteri]:

I need to talk about this

[teal_cooper]:

um, I, along on your guides and getting them. you know, just saying like a. I guess it could be called a prayer and affirmation, or just like you said, Like tuning in the energy to the other person, or whatever iss meant to be said, will be sad and like trusting that it's gonna create the Mes, like impactful episde possible, where Yeah, connect with as many people as possible, and

[clayton_cuteri]:

right and then to put a cap on. Then afterwards it's like to kind of clear

[teal_cooper]:

right and then to put a cap on it. Then afterwards it's like to kind of clear

[clayton_cuteri]:

your energy out so that you can like focus on what you need to do after the

[teal_cooper]:

your energy out so that you can like focus on what you need to do after the

[clayton_cuteri]:

fact, too. I feel like that's important as well.

[teal_cooper]:

fact, too. I feel like that's important as well. No, Yeah, definitely, and I think it's like a daily thing. It's not. that's the hard part. It's not like you can just do it lines in themil. It's like every time you interact with new people, it's like coming back to your saring yourself and getting clear and quiet, and it's a daily. I think way of livinging your life,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, that's something that I learned with meditating was like I, so I've

[teal_cooper]:

I mean, that's something that I learned with meditating was like I, so I've

[clayton_cuteri]:

been meditating for probably

[teal_cooper]:

been meditating for probably

[clayton_cuteri]:

four or five years now, but like in this first year or two like I, It was

[teal_cooper]:

four or five years now, but like in this first year or two, like I, It was just

[clayton_cuteri]:

just like all negative thought like you know, judgment, negative thought

[teal_cooper]:

like all negative thought like you know, judgment, negative thought criticism

[clayton_cuteri]:

criticism And it wasn't until about the third year where I caught myself

[teal_cooper]:

And it wasn'tt about the third year where I caught myself having thoughts of

[clayton_cuteri]:

having thoughts of congratulating myself like. Oh, dude, it was cool when

[teal_cooper]:

congratulating myself like Oh, dude, it was cool when you help that person

[clayton_cuteri]:

you help that person there. it was cool when you did this and I like I

[teal_cooper]:

there. It was cool when you did this and I like, I remember. I was sitting in

[clayton_cuteri]:

remember, I was sitting in the sauna at Uh Shock Fitness M. P. V and I had

[teal_cooper]:

the sauna at Uh Shock Fitness M. P. V, and I had that I had like a positive

[clayton_cuteri]:

that I had like a positive thought and I was like Holy shit. I just had like

[teal_cooper]:

thought and I was like Holy shit. I just had like a random positive thought

[clayton_cuteri]:

a random positive thought while meditating like I thought it was crazy. I

[teal_cooper]:

while meditating like I thought it was crazy. That's amazing. Yeah and I. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

even, Yeah, and I. I even shared it on Intogram, because I was like so like

[teal_cooper]:

even shared it on intogram, 'cause I was like so like dumbfound about it by it

[clayton_cuteri]:

dumbfounded about it by it and then two. I think two people comment it back

[teal_cooper]:

and then two. I think two people comment it back or three people and they were

[clayton_cuteri]:

or three people and they were like You can do that like you can get to a

[teal_cooper]:

like you can do that like you can get to a positive place with meditating. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

positive place with meditating. I was like Yeah, dude, like keep going.

[teal_cooper]:

was like, Yeah, dude. like keep going. Well, Yeah, I see, it's like you hit a milestone and you're like Wow. it actually does work. The work I'm getting is is making an impact.

[clayton_cuteri]:

It like shows itself.

[teal_cooper]:

It like shows it. So Yeah.

[clayton_cuteri]:

All right. Well, I heard your dog again. Um. guys, If you want to get more

[teal_cooper]:

all right. Well, I heard your dog again. Um, guys, if you want to get more in

[clayton_cuteri]:

in touch with Te, you go check out the links below. Um. I was on herpocast.

[teal_cooper]:

touch with you, you go check out the links below. Um, I was on her pocast. I

[clayton_cuteri]:

I don't know when we're going to be when she's going to release it, but

[teal_cooper]:

don't know when we're goingnna be when she's gonna release it, but we're

[clayton_cuteri]:

we're definitely going to. you know. have to figure that out. Make releas

[teal_cooper]:

definitely gonna. you know, have to fi out. Maybe we're releas them at the same

[clayton_cuteri]:

them at the same day or something. Um,

[teal_cooper]:

day or something, And

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, but

[teal_cooper]:

yeah, but other than that te, thank you so much for being here, guys check out

[clayton_cuteri]:

other than that teal, thank you so much for're being here, Guys check out their links down below in the description. Um. Share if you learn something

[teal_cooper]:

her links down below in the description. Um, share. if you learn something cool

[clayton_cuteri]:

cool. if you know somebody that knows twin flames sending my way 'cause I

[teal_cooper]:

If you know somebody that knows twin flames sending my way 'cause I know

[clayton_cuteri]:

know nothing. and

[teal_cooper]:

nothing. and

[clayton_cuteri]:

other than that we'll still, we'll see Teal again when we got to talk about

[teal_cooper]:

other than that we'll still, we'll see Teal again when we got to talk about

[clayton_cuteri]:

souls and soul. families and soul contracts so

[teal_cooper]:

souls and soul families and sole contracts. So thanke Cla and I had the best time

[clayton_cuteri]:

awesome I'm glad you enjoyed it 'cause I did too.

[teal_cooper]:

if you had any on. I'm glad you enjoy it 'cause I did too. definitely. Ded. said, Thanks again and conscious monkeys. let's grow together.

[clayton_cuteri]:

so thanks again and conscious monkeys, let's grow together.