T2C :: Traveling to Consciousness with Clayton Cuteri

Odyssey #024: The Quantum Blonde, Lindsay Rose - Don't Force It, Just Flow | Ep 45

February 28, 2022 Lindsay Rose
T2C :: Traveling to Consciousness with Clayton Cuteri
Odyssey #024: The Quantum Blonde, Lindsay Rose - Don't Force It, Just Flow | Ep 45
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About Lindsay
Lindsay Rose is a gifted healer, life coach, and expert on the Quantum field. Lindsay has been featured in VoyageLA Magazine, Southbay Magazine, and was featured in YAHOO! Finance as One of The Top 10 Life Coaches to Lookout for in 2021! Lindsay acknowledges that manifestation has truly, without a shadow of a doubt, changed her entire life and she feels blessed for the ability to help others do the same. 

Clayton's Notes
Thank you, Lindsay! We dive deep into the quantum field, how your past creates your present, and more! I loved our discussion about energy and how we are just a wave casting out into the field of the universe. I also appreciate Lindsay breaking my brain a few times. It's been a while since I've had a good mind-blown. Overall, it may feel a little bit like an echo chamber, but we use our past to back up our claims.

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[clayton_cuteri]:

What is up, Conscious Monkeys? welcome to another episode of Traveling to Consciousness. I am your host, Clay and Cut Terry today, I am joined by a manifestation coach, but no ordinary manifestation coach One that was named by Yahoo Finance as one of the top ten life coaches to look out for in twenty twenty one, And although it's twenty twenty two, she must have made her splash. Uh, you may know her on Ti, talk or instigram, as the Quantum Blonde conscious monkeys. welcome to the show, Lindsay Rose, Lindsay be being here.

[lindsay_rose]:

Thank you so much. I'm so honored to be here and just I know we're going to have such an epic conversation. I'm really excited to to be doing this with you.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, and I mean it was. It was crazy because when we do the initial meeting Gree. I could like feel it within like five or ten minutes. It was like just the excitement or the energy that was there in the conversation. I was like. I had to like bottle it up. I was like Lindsy. We got to stop like we got to save this for the podcast.

[lindsay_rose]:

Let's

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, uh, So, and that even just resumed in our initial like Green Room conversation. Um. and what was the topic that we were going to jump into was the idea of whenever the student is ready, the teacher will uh, present itself. And it sounds like that's a theme that you're experiencing right now in your life, and really something that I've been experiencing as well recently.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, absolutely. I think just having gone to a a difficult patch of my life, just unexpected term events, Um within my relationship, Um, just going through a breakup and everything. I was just know, sharing with you that these experiences sometimes like we have to take the focus off of the other person and really turn it around and look at ourselves to understand why we end up in certain situations or have certain experiences that repeat themselves in our lives. Because it' it's ultimately that these people come into our lives to reflect something to us. We need to learn about ourselves that we, we need to deepen, or we need to learn to love ourselves more, or you know, set boundaries or whatever that might be, and I think that you really are empowered in your growth when you can sit there and and really look at yourself and say, Why did I attract this experience? You know, Why is this in my life? Why is this happening right now, and instead of playing the victim role, which is very easy to slip into in

[clayton_cuteri]:

Right

[lindsay_rose]:

difficult times, but instead of going that route to just. Say, what can I learn from this Because this person came into my life as a teacher. as painful as it might have been. It was a teacher for me because there's something I have to learn to get me to where I really need to go.

[clayton_cuteri]:

And that's such an fascinating thing to hear you say, Because kind of reading bio. You know. that's not really. I guess the first time youve kind of felt this energy been exposed to it.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

What was there something that kind of like shifted your mindset away from this, and I don't know that you ever had a victim mentality? But like it seems like kind of you've had enough things occur in your life. where could very easily cultivate a victim mentality. Is there something that kind of

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

shifted you away from that?

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, I would say the so kind of the turning point in my life was when I was in like a really, really toxic. It was like five years ago and it was it was the relationship that really shook me, Um, and up until that point I really was deeply rooted in in victim consciousness. Um. I. I had grown up at a really difficult childhood. I never really felt that I was loved or wanted or accepted, and I was just searching for some form of love and acceptance my whole life, and I never felt like I was good enough and I had one of the greatest teachers for me Was like a this horrific relationship that I was in that was abusive on many levels. Um, and when I left that relationship, it was one of those moments where I said you can either continue down this road and keep experiencing the same level of pain and abuse or you can do something about it. And it was like one of those moments I had with myself where you know whatever you want to call it high. Yourselfel, God, I don't know. Whatever resonates with you was like, kind of shook me and said you are in control of your reality. No one else is doing this to you. You were in control of this and it's up to you to make the change, So to you to stop, you know, repeating these cycles and these patterns, and you get to choose that today, or you get to continue to have these experiences and the lessons coming, or you're going to learn. But it's up to you and

[clayton_cuteri]:

Was that was that like an intuitive sort of download, Or is that something you read like?

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Did it keep like just screaming at you? How did you? How did you hear that

[lindsay_rose]:

it was so I. I got to this point where I like literally is one of those moments where I was driving home from work, I remember, and I was like I can just really easily swarve my car over and like it could be over and I don't have to deal with this pain any morere. And then something just hit me. I remember just being in my car. I was like, Yeah, that's the easy way out,

[clayton_cuteri]:

right?

[lindsay_rose]:

or you can face what is happening to you and you can really get honest with yourself and you could start to make the change and going back to the when the studenton is ready. The teacher appears After I may had that realization. I started like things started popping up for me, Like Abraham Hicks was kind of the gateway drug for me into manifestation and understanding that I was creating all of this, and from there I was led to like Waynedyer and Ecart Tola, And it was like one after the other started just aligning for me and it started to click and I was like, Oh, my gosh, this has all been a reflection of me.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I've been doing this.

[lindsay_rose]:

Nobody else's fault, right,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, yeah, that's so crazy. How you know you have that like Click, and then everything sort of just starts to that rabbit. Ho just expands for you. It's like check out this person and check out that person you know like that just keeps opening

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, yeah, it was. it was like a portal. I was just like you literally went into the, and I started to realize

[clayton_cuteri]:

a portal.

[lindsay_rose]:

like I don't know if you've had these moments yet, but I started to realize I would think about something and then I would see it or I would think about someone and they would text me And I was like what is going on here And that was kind of what opened me up to wanting to understand, Like the universe and a law of attraction on. not just like, kind of a woooo level, but like how does this actually work from a quantum physics perspective? Like why do I think about things and I see them physically manifest in reality. Like what's going on

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

here and that was really fascinating for me, too.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and to touch on your thing, like I actually experienced that yesterday. like when you're in this place of almost loving creation and flow, like things just kind of happen, And

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

that happened to me yesterday because I was chilling. I was making some baon. I was like in just such a great place cause I was like journal, you know, just mentally in a great spot

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I know I was makingtake and I had like a hot skillet in the oven And so I need to pull it out and well, my mind was like Okay. There's this very specific oment that I had in mind that I used before and I opened the cover as as I opened it, it just fell right into my hand and I was like ohly shit, like.

[lindsay_rose]:

you're in the flow.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, it was like that's so cool Yeah, it was like that's so cool

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, that's when life gets good. It's just like you realize you don't have to try so hard. You don't have to make up all these stories about reality. You know, I think that's what a lot of it is is that we. We make up all these stories about how hard it is or about how difficult the healing process is. or you know how challenging life is like. I remember. one of the things Um, my mom used to say is life sucks and then you die and it was just such a depleting. you know.

[clayton_cuteri]:

energy

[lindsay_rose]:

Even though it's just words, it's like it really doesn't when you have that perspective on life, And these are the stories that you're saying and you're expecting things to be that way. That is what you

[clayton_cuteri]:

and that's

[lindsay_rose]:

get. That's what you get. So

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, And that's kind of how I've been starting to view the world. Like when you hear people who say those kinds of things or feel this kind of ways, I'm like you know, A a portion of it almost doesn't resonate with me and there's a resistance to it. It's like wait. you're You're missing something here like there's this feeling

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

of like. no, No, No, there's more to this like. Yeah, I mean, life isn't always sunshine of rainbows. But even me just saying that, isn't that just a reflection of the way I see the world. And and therefore I'm right like it's like the worlds like it's almost self fulfilling prophecy, Where

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

if if you truly believe something like, who the hell am mine to tell you you're wrong Because it's like we're that powerful Where it's like you're right. You're like that's that's it. You're right. You know,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes, yes, Mhm, Whether you think you can or

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

you can't, you're right. I, I don't know who quote, that is, but it's it's true. It's like whatever your expectation is of reality, whatever your expectation is of people you know, and to take full ownership of my own experience and this past relationship. there was a part of me that expected this person not to stick around.

[clayton_cuteri]:

M

[lindsay_rose]:

You know I had had a lot of abandonment in my life, and I had a lot of reason not to trust or believe that anybody would really follow through with what they said they were going to do, and I think internally, like that was an expectation that I had, and whether or not I manifested that or it manifested someone to validate that. For me, You know, it's the chicken

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

or the egg, but it's it really is. it's something that you have to go. Okay. This happened because I expected that this was going to happen on a

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[lindsay_rose]:

deeper level. you know, either conscious or subconscious. it. It was there.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Is there something that you're kind of trying to like work with to to kind of heal that or integrate that like. Is there a way you, and maybe this is a, this kind of leads to a bigger question and I'm interested in your specific answer, for you know your situation, but the bigger question

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

is like You know, if you're trying to manifest something like, let's say, a car or a house, you close your eyes, you think about it, you do what you got to do, Then you open your eyes and it's not there. So you have this like almost gap, and you have this gap in, you know, the manifestation versus reality. And so I'm curious how that kind of relates to your specific situation where you know you. it. It's almost like there's like a conscious belief of it being there, but then the subconscious comes in and it's like Na. You're not ready for that Know, I'm curious if

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you is something you do to to heal that or to try to, you know, resolve that within yourself.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, and I think like everything that and it's the most difficult thing for people when they're manifesting is because you're visualizing it. But then you look at reality and you're like Well, this is reality and I don't have the thing that I'm manifesting. And so it introduces this vibration of lack. And you know, I think like, If you can just realize that everything right now in your life is old energy. It's old creation. This isn't where you currently are. This is old energy. This is old thought form and your most dominant vibration up until this point, So to me this whole experience is, This experience has said to me like your dominant vibration has been disbelief that another person can actually be trustworthy. Another person isn't going to betray you. And even though consciously I had done a lot of work on myself and like, really deepened myself, worth and myself. Love. there's only so much you can do without someone triggering the shit

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

out of you right. There's only so much you can do on your own. You have to have somebody kind of poke at those wounds to say. Oh, that's still there.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

you know. Thank you

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

for that. Thank you for doing that for me because I wouldn't have been able to to have known that, and I think consciously or subconsciously I called this person into my life because I needed him to say, You still have these wounds you've got to heal if you really want to be. If you really want to have the depth of the relationship in intimacy, you're looking for these other things youve got heal, and I'm the right person for the job because we have very similar

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay,

[lindsay_rose]:

wounds, and I want to mirror that to

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're right.

[lindsay_rose]:

you right. So it's all perspective like. it's very easy to think like I did something wrong. There's something wrong with me and you know I wasn't thinking the right way or had poor belief systems, Or you can just say this was a gift and I'm grateful

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's almost.

[lindsay_rose]:

for this be cause. Now I get to step into more of who I am

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's almost that shift between like a pessimistic and an optimistic mindset

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly

[clayton_cuteri]:

and something that you that you

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

said, which I love how this universe works. Uh, because I was literally just having a conversation with my parents about this because all these things almost kind of learning. I kind of just regiterate to them. To you know, we get a lot of our traumas from our parents and like are upbringing. And so it's like all right if I can and acknowledge it to myself and I can send that to my parents. And it's like that's like the ultimate healing in my eyes right now at least. And

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

something we just talked about this morning was you talking about was how you talked about this gap between you know that state of being and that's the vibrational energy that youve sent out And what the book I've been reading is a pocket full of happiness or a happy pocket full,

[lindsay_rose]:

Happy, Pockful of money

[clayton_cuteri]:

happy pocket full of money. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

so

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

good, it's one of my favorites.

[clayton_cuteri]:

so it. It's really good, I'm you know Mo halfway through right now, and something that you know the guy talks about In there is he talks about how you know there's your state of being and then there's your thoughts and emotions and then there's the external world. It's kind of how he breaks it down and I don't know if you specifically said it, But the way that I like the way that it was worded and the way it resonate with me was that you create that state of being. That state of being influences your emotions and thoughts, and then that gets projected into

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

your outside world through actions, and so for you to like you're saying, you change your state of being, But it's not like you have to maintain that state of being based on that outside world coming back from your old state of being. It's it's

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

ocean. And and these you're you're propelling these waves and these frequencies out into the world And it's the mirror. It's like you said, it's a mirror. It comes back to you. It might not be as instantaneous

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

as a mirr, but once it comes back to you, you need to hold that state of being that you previously held and realize like no, No, no, no, No, like that's the old frequency. This isn't you anymore. You know like you're kind of. I don't want to say, pass this, but that's your old self coming back at you.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes, it's it's data. It's just information for you to say. Okay, That's old thought, but you have to. I think in Joopenser, says it, But you have to be able to think a greater than you feel, so you have to be able to look beyond what you arere currently experiencing and stop giving your attention and focus to that because otherwise you're going to just keep perpetuating the same experience. And that's why visualization is such a powerful tool. because when you visualize your subconscious mind doesn't know whether it's actually happening or not, you're having the same physiological response in your body or having the same emotions of that thing actually happening for you. So when you visualize you move yourself literally into that state of being in the reality that you want to experience. And so when you're in a difficult patch you're you're in a reality experience that you don't want to experience. Your greatest asset is your imagination. It's it's the really that portal to the possibility and the the vibration of what you're seeking. The more time you can spend in that energy, the faster it will materialize for you.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that's and I think that's a huge part of it right. And maybe that's like the whole. The whole crux of it right is like you know, becoming so aware of your emotions that, no matter what, the outer vibration or your past vibrations that you put out into the world, if you're able to confront those as quickly as possible, because I know there's times where like you get these little sparks of anger. Something happens. You get frustrated. but, like you're saying, the

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

quicker you can be like, whoa, whoa, like that got triggered from your old state of being. That's no longer who you are today, the more

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you can do that over. And over and over the quicker that your manifestation your desires, whatever your frequency is that you arere aligning with comes to forition,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, yeah, and it's It's like the way that you react. It's really not about the the outside world, and the situation's going on. It's your response to it. It's the reaction that you have to it. So I think most of our power lies within that, like just mill a second before we respond to something before you take an action before you express something. To just really pause and say, where is this coming from? Why am I responding this way? Is this actually in alignment with what I want to create for myself? Is this conducive to the state of being that I want to experience? And if you can just stop yourself in that moment and choose a different way to respond, That's literally how you collapse timelines and you shift yourself in a quantum level. Because you're not doing things the same way that you normally would do them. You're making a different

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

choice. Then that's really how you? you speed things out from a manifestation perspective, You, you do things differently, take different

[clayton_cuteri]:

you feel different.

[lindsay_rose]:

action. and even if you, you feel their Yeah, like, even if you do have an emotion like you know, I have anger come up. Sometimes I have sadness come up, and the best way to to release it is just to feel it, but not to identify with it. not to attach a story to it, not to make it mean things about you or about reality. But just okay, I'm I'm identifying that I'm feeling sad right now and let yourself feel sad, and then refocus yourself and say Okay. Well, what? what feels better in this moment? You know you don't. you don't necessarily have to jump from being sad too ecstatic. But you know if you can move from sad to whole, full, or just kind of like, you know, neutral, you're making progress in the right direction.

[clayton_cuteri]:

And what was like kind of screaming through my head when you're talking about that is, I believe everything you are saying, and we can look at it even from a physical level where there's people who will like walk ar along coals, like with their feet like hot colds, and they get to this meditative place. and when they're in that deep meditative trance they're able to walk across like I don't know fifty hundred feet of like burning hot coals. You know, anyone picks it up with their hand. It would just blister it, burn the shit out of it, but they're able to walk through

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it and my, that broke my mind. I'm like. How the hell does that happen? You know I. I came from a very analytical background. It's like fires, fire. It burns everyone the same, but what

[lindsay_rose]:

right,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I realized is is that what they were doing is. since they were such a deep trance, the fire was just flowing through them. The energy was just kind of going in their feet and out their head essentially right. And so what this has translated to in the physical world is like, If you burn yourself, you have this instantaneous G. need knee jerk, knee jerk reaction To want to stop it like the pain has to stop. So what happens is is your mind gets into it and essentially bottles up that energy into a specific location and then your finger's going to blister and then you, that blister you know is going to go through the whole healing thing. However, if the second you get burnt, you're like Oh, I got burnt, But you allow that energy to flow through your arm to flow into your body, and you know, let's say out your head. It's

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

not going to manifest as this as this blister on your finger. You're not going to go through that pain for a long period of time, and I believe that there's a strong correlation with what you were just saying there with uh, everything about the emotions like, Yeah, you can feel sad, but don't let it. Don't block it. don't hold it in your body. let it just flow through you.

[lindsay_rose]:

Like

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

transmutation of it right, likecause, every emotion is really its one energy filtered through a story through

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

a thought. Right, So the sadness that's coming out of you. It's filtered through a thought that you have like there's something that you're thinking about, But now you' saying, Oh, I'm feeling sadness. I' experiencing sadness and we just have this natural inclination to want to move away from paint into pleasure. And then that's why most people don't want to feel the pain. They don't want to feel the feelings. They' quickly, you know, fill it with alcohol or another relationship or whatever, because they don't want to actually feel the feelings that they have. And and then it becomes suppressed emotion like you said, and it gets stuck in the body and then people experience disease. You know, there's joint pain, stomach pain, heart, pa, Like it. Just eight has to manifest in some way, and you, you know, you really just have to let that emotion move through your body as an energy without making it mean something.

[clayton_cuteri]:

instead of like letting it like impede or like become trapped,

[lindsay_rose]:

like I said about yourself. Mhm, Become an identity right. A lot of people say I am an anxious person.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

You know it's like or I am depressed. It' like you have just identified yourself with an emotion that isn't meant to stay. It's meant

[clayton_cuteri]:

right

[lindsay_rose]:

to move through you.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and

[lindsay_rose]:

You're supposed to be liberated by it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, I think that's a beautiful way to kind of put it. and even just you could even touch on just the I M statement as a whole, because that's so powerful in its own rights. It's like you know me even saying I am Clayton. it's like Uh, are you? You know.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's like W. Like, what do you mean that you are? You know someone? But then even to attach that to a feeling, I feel it's a huge blunder in of itself. and even even furthermore, Um, I said this one time on the podcast Like day cart, He, he said, I think, Therefore I am and I feel like

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's even a huge blunder on a societal level as well. It's like you know you're not because you think like you know an animal is, But it doesn't think. it just is, you know, and it's I. I

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

feel like it's more like I am, Therefore I am like. it's almost like something that

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

language can't even describe,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, I am that I am. You know, it's just you you decide that we. we decide who we are. I mean, it's really the construct of the ego. More than anything. That's that wants to identify as something. And the idea that it isn't something, is what you know causes the ego death. Because we have to like compartmentalize ourselves into these. I am Lindsay and I have this, and I do this, and that's who I am, but I think we really truly find ourselves. When we lose ourselves, we lose that identity. you know,

[clayton_cuteri]:

which is pretty beautiful. right because something in, I guess it kind of relates to politics, but I feel like majority of politics is predicated on a dividing conquer strategy where if you can create somebody to identify as another right, you now have a perpetutor. You have a victim and you have a perpetutor. And so you know, even from that level it's like you know I. This might sound weird, but it's not like I am Clayton, and it's not like you know I am someone else, but it's like you know there's this level of oneness where it's like I am clin, but I'm also Lindsy, but I'm also this house, but I'm

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

also this microphone And so it gets like to this weird

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

level of like. Well, you know, how can you identify anything?

[lindsay_rose]:

Mm. yeah, that's it mean? that's enlightenment right, like when the wave realizes it's the ocean, like we're all part of the same thing. And that's I think. That's when you can really feel unconditional

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's the.

[lindsay_rose]:

Love is when you realize that you are the other person

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's the crux of it. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

you know. Mhm. Yeah, you are me. I am you. What I do to you. I also do to

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

me, you know, especially at a subconscious level. I find it fascinating when we wish ill will towards others or when we Sp. we speak things about other people that are negative or mean and the subconscious takes you literally as that's what you want to experience for yourself.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, right,

[lindsay_rose]:

So envy judgment, hatred, projection rejection to other people. You're doing that to yourself,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and I think that's I. I know my mom said this a lot whenever I was a kid. Not sure your situation, but it's the whole, like when you point a finger at somebody three or pointing back at you. it's like you know

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's It's even in the bible. It's like why would you had something like Jesus said that, like, Why would you point out the speck in my eye, but not acknowledge the log in your own. It's like if you're if

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're in a place to cast judgment or point out somebody else's flaw, it's like what's the other say? there's another thing where it's like. Oh, it takes one to know one. It's like the reason that you can identify that or that you would casch judgment into this world About it is because you have that within yourself. you're unable to integrate that, or you know, be one with it, or to just allow it to be.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean. that's ultimately. the shadow that's the rejection of of self. Like when I work with people, that's one of the things that we dive into. It's like I'm like. Tell me what you judge about other people. Tell me what annoys you the most about people, Because that is a part of you that you have disowned. It's a part of you. You haven't accepted it about yourself

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's a beautiful way to start it. That's a beautiful way to start that conversation. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

right. It's like Yeah, if you can really be, and it takes radical honesty and humility and compassion for yourself. right cause. it's really never about blaming yourself. The things that you've learned you've picked up because somebody told you they were true. Somebody you know rejected these parts of you and you didn't really know how to process or integrate that at that time in your life. Mostly like when you're a child, right, we don't have this ability to discern what people are saying to us. We just say Oh, that must be true about me, And then we learn to reject these things on

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

ourselves, so we judge them in others. Because somebody said it wasn't okay for us to be that way, So why is it going to be okay for you to be that way? I can't accept that about you, you know, and we just project

[clayton_cuteri]:

right. it reminds me. It reminds me of, like you know, in the developmental age or developmental stages of like a kid's life, where you know between the ages of zero and seven, there is basically no analytical brain whatsoever, Probably round the age seven. it's probably starts to develop. but it's like you'. literally just a sponge. It's like you are

[lindsay_rose]:

mhm. Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

literally absorbing everything that is now going to be the blueprint. Unless you you know, do these steps. If you were to just never acknowledge it again, you're just going to fall into this like habitual state of repetition because you have been literally programmed by your environment by your parents to carry out these things that you know are are who you're going to identify with. It's your I m statements that you're just repetively, telling yourself througho your head for ninety years.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, I mean everything, the way that your parents, their perspective on money, you know the way that their relationship was the way that you. you watch your mom speak to herself, You think that that's that's the way that it is like everything that they're sharing with you. Not just your parents, but your caretakers, the peers that you have, like everything You literally. That is the foundation which you create. Your reality is based on all the things that you learn from zero to seven and you will notice as you get into your adult life, things will happen that feel very like patterns. like you're having the same experiences over and over again, attracting the same partners you know, ending up in jobs that aren't fulfilling. not being able to make your pay your bills. These are coming from those like you, said the blueprint of the structure that was built within you as a child. Literally, you, you were

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's like the foundation. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

programmed and you can change it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. That's the beautiful thing is that we can change our brains,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and and this is like making me think of like a pretty solid analogy. Now it's like you know that that subconscious is almost the foundation of a building and you've built all these layers on top of it right. But what starts to happen is is when you go through this process of enlightenment or just self realization, you have to start shaving off layers of that building in order to get down to the

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to the foundation of. like, Oh, like that's where my unworthiness was coming from. It's like Oh, that was actually sexual trauma that I haven't dealt with. It's like you know, so you have to like. Just move all this stuff and then start from the ground up. In a sense, you're like I think they call dark K. Night of the Soul or something. Um, it's just like let's cleared out and we're just going to build something else

[lindsay_rose]:

Yup, yeah, cause we I. everything that you're experiencing Ninety five percent of what you create is subconscious. You're not even aware of it, so you could consciously want something for yourself like. Oh, I consciously want to be really wealthy and consciously won't have a a fantastic relationship, But then subconsciously you're not allowing that for yourself. You're not allowing that to happen, Because like you said, you know you've got these beliefs that you're not worthy. You know, maybe your dad left when you were really little and you just felt like you were not worthy of being loved, So even though you want it, you're never going to let it in. You're going to sabotage it because at the core you don't feel that you're worthy of it. you know,

[clayton_cuteri]:

right. and you have to like. Really, And it takes a huge level of realization to kind of even just get to that point where you're like. Oh, this was because of that

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and and something,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I've noticed that I always have found a very fascinating thing. Is like you can really kind of jump into your present moment to find those things because I'm

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

sorry if you can hear my dog in the background. She's gone crazy right now. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

energies.

[clayton_cuteri]:

we're hitting a good spot. That's usually what that means. Um, but you dive into that present moment and and this kind of touches on how everything's happening right now. Right is like you know if there's a a sense of anger or emotion, we can even use her barking. Like how could she that she's barking in the middle of my pod, Cas, to you know, record.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

But all that is is a like a pre. What's the word I'm looking for here? A um, like a uh, preconditioned emotion of anger towards somebody else, impeding my ability to create. Let's say you know and it's and

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

then you can kind of trace back that emotion if you get to a deep place of meditation where you realize that this emotion has

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

occurred in t, sometimes fifteen, twenty different areas of your life. And you're like, Oh, like this is just my conditioned reaction whenever I feel this emotion

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, and it. Yeah, it stems back to that first initial experience that you had where. Maybe you just you didn't feel hurd. You didn't feel like, Uh, you were understood. you were seen. you were rejected and it's really the inner child part of view that is coming out in the adult form because it was never heard. it was never, its needs weren't met. It was invalidated and so a lot of the work that we have to do is really reintegration with the inner child self and really being able to give that part of ourselves what we need. Otherwise we're going to continue to act out these patterns of behavior that are unhelpful because it's screaming from inside

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[lindsay_rose]:

of us like we need to be heard. We need to be validated. We need to be, you know, feel that we're safe and protected and that's I mean. I. I really feel like that's been a large part of my interner healing journey is reconnecting with my inner child.

[clayton_cuteri]:

So I, I think this is a super important thing because this is something that I was just exposed to in the last two years about like inner child work, Um, disent plant medicine got some like incredible therapeutic. You know, discoveries from doing in her child work, and not even know his in child work until you know you go through the whole process and was like, Oh shit, that's pretty tight, so I'm curious.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

What does inner child work look like to you?

[lindsay_rose]:

Uh, So what I usually do is like, There's a couple of things I do. I will write. I'll dialogue with minor child, So I used my non dominant hand as it. It's like my inner child that's writing and my dominant hand, is it? It's my adult self,

[clayton_cuteri]:

That'sper cool?

[lindsay_rose]:

So if I'm having something like come up, I'll usually check in with myself and be like Okay. Where did this stem from? If I connect, it can connect it back to something that happened to childhood. Like, for instance, the most recent one that I had was just a memory of uh, being left at my dayca, when I was like five years old and my dad was supposed to come pick me up and he never showed up. And so I had this like inner dialogue where my inner child was feeling like she didn't matter. She was afraid, Um, she didn't feel that she was loved. She was afraid she was going to die like all these really deep seated emotions were coming out, and so I would just dialogue with her, and then after that I do a visualization where I just picture myself like either on a beach or somewhere in nature, where I'm just with her and I'm sitting face to face with her and just kind of letting her express what's going on and then asking her what you know. What do you need for me? Is there something I can do to make you feel seen heard? Is there a way that you want to express yourself That you need to let this out, and um, and I just kind of listened to what she says, And sometimes it's like I just need a hug or I just need you to validate and validate me and tell me that I'm enough. Or sometimes it's I need to go play. I need to to color. I need to do something to express myself to feel that I'm I'm allowed to be a child again. You know like just it's It's so interesting. The inner world really does have all the answers that you are seeking and connecting with That is like it's truly the most therapeutic thing that you can do.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Is there something that cause youre a coach and you've worked with so of these people? Is there like a resistance? And is there a resistance to wanting to go inward that you see with people like? And and even,

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh, yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, you have so much stuff about manifestation? Like? What does that kind of look like? Do people are just like? No, The outer worlds there is like this, three space. There's nothing more to it. Like. What is that? What's that kind of look like from a

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

coaches perspective?

[lindsay_rose]:

y. it's oh. There's always a level of hesitation any time you're inviting people to go within, because it's if you haven't gone there before, it can seem like a really daunting and scary place and I think that's why coaching is so beneficial because you're not traveling, not journey alone. You have someone that's there with you. That's kind of guiding you along that path. To say, this is what you're going to expect. You know. this is what you might feel. This is what it might look like. and even though it might be difficult to traverse this in the beginning, the results are going to be. you know. In Fiinite, it's

[clayton_cuteri]:

Literally?

[lindsay_rose]:

going to be so amazing for you when you get on the other side of this that you just kind of have to let them know that it's going to be uncomfortable for a little bit, just like going through the berth canal. It's not a comfortable experience, but on the other side of that

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

is life, you know. And and we, we really do, because we manifest from the subconscious in order to really clear the way to the infinite possibilities that exists for you. You have to clear the gunk out. that's kind of stuck within you from your childhood. The trauma, the the pain that you've experienced, the let downs, you know, the abandonment. all of that you. in order to really be able to manifest effortlessly and easily, you want to have a clean slate,

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[lindsay_rose]:

because otherwise you manifest the lessons.

[clayton_cuteri]:

does that need to be learned?

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, you want the blessings, you know,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

and you know, hopefully less of the lessons. But if you learn them and you do the work, you don't have to experience them anymore.

[clayton_cuteri]:

do you feel like you ask for lessons? Like if everything's going well in your life? Do you ever find yourself in a position where you're like? I could probably learn something else like. And maybe this recent ex cens that recent situation is like a lens into that where it's like you know you, you know I, and it you know, I first appreciate you saying like you know being honable about it, because you know if you're a coach, you're and maybe not everybody. but maybe I'm projecting here, but you might be seen as needing to have all the answers or your life should be perfect. You know I hype with quotes around

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

that because what is perfect, but you know is, is there like situations where you're like are a universe like. I'm ready for the next lesson.

[lindsay_rose]:

um, I, I don't necessarily have that approach, but I do recognize that I love expansion. I love growth. I love change. I love like. I just have big visions, like really big dreams for myself. That when I hit this level of okay, Ive, you know I was able to manifest my dream home, I was able to manifest like my career taking off being, you know, manifesting this level of success that I haven't had before, But with that even though it's amazing and I feel really grateful for all of it, there's always something in me that's like Okay, I'm ready to expand further, I andm ready to expand further. I want to be at my next highest potential. You know, I want to be the best version of myself that I could be, and I think because I have that intention, we naturally have lessons that come with that because to expand we have to oftenimes go through pain

[clayton_cuteri]:

I.

[lindsay_rose]:

and challenges because they give us the opportunity to really reach the next level of expansion.

[clayton_cuteri]:

my favorite. quote. to highly, exactly what you just said is by Calll Young. It's no tree can reach its leaves into heaven without its roots reaching down to hell. I'd want to get

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

that tattooed on my arm. I've been oneing that for Aw while, so I might need to

[lindsay_rose]:

so good.

[clayton_cuteri]:

pull a trigger on that soon. Yeah, yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

That's a sign

[clayton_cuteri]:

I've been thinking about for. Ah,

[lindsay_rose]:

It's so true's. so true.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, yeah, I mean. it's it. It's crazy how it like. I don't know. there was another like spiritualist or mystic on you toe. Oh, Elizabeth, April, I'm not sure if you've heard of her. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh yeah, yeah.

[clayton_cuteri]:

she was talking about how you know. For those who don't know, she's a Channler. She, um, you know, has a close relationship, let's say with like the Galactic Federation, and that's probably a lot for the channel. I love talking about it, but for some reason the podcast hasn't yet gotten into the extraterrestrial alienture, Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

oh, I love it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

maybe this is the first po guess we get to, but I bring her up because. Um, you know when she's talking to this, let's just say higher power. it's like you know she. I remember one time she was talking about how she got frustrated with them. like, how could you let this happen? How could you let all this sex abuse? How could you let all this uh, child trafficking like happen on earth like you're supposed to be the guardians of. You know, peace and love and happiness and their answer was very

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

simple. It's that that needed to happen like it. It needs to happen in order for us to realize the depths of hell that consciousness can actually go to, So so we were able to transcend it.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, oh, my gosh, that it just sparks something in me because I remember when all of this was going down like just a few weeks ago. Um, I was getting this guidance to like what I do as a channel. I right, kind of channel. like what my highrself wants to share with me And I was asking for guidance on this whole situation and the only thing that came through was it had to happen.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Whoa,

[lindsay_rose]:

It had to happen and I was like Okay, Like what does this mean And it just made me realize like this had to happen to get me to where I am supposed to be, So where I had to go, it had to happen and it took away all this feeling of like. Well, what if I would have done this or what if I would have changed this about myself, Or what if I would have shown up this way

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

and I just realized like sometimes it just has to happen.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, and I'm thinking back to my life in a very similar manner where it's you go through this. At least I went through this process of you know, growing up, I, as a software engineer, very uneally minded. You could classify me as like athletic nerd. I

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

played all the sports, but still as a software engineer. Um, you get. I was going through life and then you know, After college straddled with a ton of debt, you know, and the whole thing was is, I got angry about it. It was like this. The first level of transcending was like anger. It was like this anger of dad. Why didn't you tell me I was getting into dead? I had no idea what I was doing. You know, anger, anger, anger, but the next step above it is like, Oh, like I had to go into debt to know what it meant to not want to be in debt. Like, like, how do you tell someone they don't want to be in debt? Just like I'll pay that down in the future.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's like. Well, yeah, but do you realize like what you're doing to yourself and like what that feels like in the place you're putting yourself in the energy that surrounds and the fear that I, it cultivates. And so it's like you need to be there in order to transcend it almost

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, how. I mean. How can you learn? It's like even Abraham, Hicks, Like she talks about contrast, it's like. In order to know what you want, you have to know what you don't want you know. In order to really be able to clarify the direction, the focus of what you want to experience. Sometimes you have to go through these things to learn what other way you're going to learn other than experience? you know, words don't really teach experienced teachers.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, right. And it's so powerful because you could place that into anything, and that's actually something that I started realizing Like along my I guess manifestation journey where it's like Okay, I want these certain things, but then you don't realize like uh, let's say the negativity or like the the side effects of having those things right, Like it's like you want to travel the world like cool. Like I went on a path. I traveled uh, Brazil for two months, but it's like you don't realize, Like the little things, the little stress, little triggers that are going to happen along that journey and' going be wrong I'm grateful for. but it just it puts things in a little bit more perspective of. like. Okay, Well, I do want to travel, but I need to have this part of my life figured out as well. You know. It's like figuring out a

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes,

[clayton_cuteri]:

priority in a sense,

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, and it it you know, it goes back to the one of the universal laws of the universe is like the law of polarity. We. we attract things in whole. So no matter what you're wanting to manifest, I think sometimes we have this idea that it's only going to be all the positive of that experience. but you literally get it in its wholele, so manifesting more money and having a lot more money. Well, now you have to also figure out how to manage your money. You know, there's a lot paying taxes. There's other things that come with that manifesting a relationship. Well, you're also going to be manifesting the difficult conversations you have to have. You're also going to have to manifest going

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, right,

[lindsay_rose]:

deeper within yourself and having more authenticity, exploring intimacy in a deeper way. So you really? do you get both sides of the coin no matter what you're manifesting, And sometimes it helps to take it off of a pedestal. You know this this idea that, Oh, I'm going to have this amazing life, but it's also going to come with the equal and opposite side that you have to address

[clayton_cuteri]:

which is a great way to put it, and I, i guess probably transcends you to

[lindsay_rose]:

to.

[clayton_cuteri]:

the next level of just accepting everything as it is right. Like there's pros and

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

cons of everything that occurs. There's the duality, which, um, I, I think this episode is going to air at the end of February, but you know right now we're going through the whole, two two, two, two, poor old, Um, for those who don't

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

know, it's like February second. Well, today's February fourth, but February second, two thousand, twenty two. and then you're going to have February twentieth, two thousand and twenty two. and then February. you know. So it's all these twos which represent the duality. Right too is the symbol of

[lindsay_rose]:

yes,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you know, masculine affeminineits. That it's that polarity that we see in our everyday lives, and I

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

kind of lost my train of thought there

[lindsay_rose]:

The Y in the A You get it, you get all of it. I mean it really is. It's about balance about understanding that everything is inherently balanced. even when you have horrible experiences happen to you and you're in a really low state. It just means that there's something you. It's like pulling back a rubber band when you go into the dark and you go into the pain and the the suffering that you're experiencing. It has to sling shot you forward to a positive experience that equally balances that out. I mean, if it cause an effect, karma, whatever you want to call it, it's like you're not going to be stuck where you are forever, and the depth of the pain you experience, it means that you're equally going to have an experience that's loving and abundant and joyful on the other side of that. And if you can keep that in mind, as you're going through those rough patches, and you know that nothing is permanent, it's temporary. and if you're feeling this now, then there's something so amazing that's on its way for you.

[clayton_cuteri]:

that it reminds me of whenever I was going to college to become a computer engineer. You know, there were times of self doubt that would creep in, and the that I would always tell myself was If it was easy, everyone could do it, And you know, now,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

looking back, I think everyone can do it, But the point is is that you know that that phrase alone was what. like got me through college. Almost it was like any time I found myself like you know, in stress about a test or a quiz, or you know, not having studied it was like it was like. Do you? do you want it to be easy? Like if everything was

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

easy and perfect, there would be nothing like it. I, if there

[lindsay_rose]:

right,

[clayton_cuteri]:

was if you could imagine perfection. And this is what I tell people is, I think I think the the difference between utopian dist, it's like a circle. I think utopian dytopia are right beside each other. You know, like, and I and I view this from all the atrocities of like the nineteenth century, where it was the twenty century, the T twentyenti century, where you know you had massive amounts of you know, genocide carried out in the name of you know. this is going to be the best thing for the world, And it, you know it's like you don't get perfection without the hell that comes with it. Almost

[lindsay_rose]:

mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Yeah, I mean it's and I think too like. It's also kind of a concept that we have it as humans. It's like. In order to really value what comes out of it, there's a part of us that has to go through the difficult, the struggle, the effort, the hustle, Because if it were just to like land in your lap, is it really going to have the same value to you? Are you? Are you really going to appreciate it

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's a key word.

[lindsay_rose]:

and I, I'm a firm believer that any time that we experience loss, it's an invitation to appreciation,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[lindsay_rose]:

Because anything that you you really lose, it's like it really does help me to appreciate it. It really helps you to appreciate. Um, you know what that loss brings into your life is like. Oh, well, that really mattered to me. That was something that was really important. and um, and I think that that the next time it comes around, you end up having more appreciation for it because you know what it feels to be without it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, you can almost fi out the like. if even if you really want to go through it again, right or if you want that again specifically, or

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

even you know, we could take us back to a relationship standpoint. I think that it also can highlight. like, maybe a tweak to make with a manifestation right. Like Well, this

[lindsay_rose]:

Mm, Yes,

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, this relationship didn't work out, but looking back on my manifestations, I never account for that. I wanted something physical, but there was something

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

more metaphysical that I actually wanted in my relationship and it goes back to it. It's like Okay, Well, that wasn't the perfect person. but now you can get a little bit closer to perfection with your next manifestation, your next special person.

[lindsay_rose]:

yes, Absolutely. I actually kept the list that I wrote. So I, before I manifested my past partner, I, I would just write a list of like every quality that I wanted, and I thought about every relationship I had had in the past and the things that I like, the things that I didn't like. And when I made the list I, I really tried to take away from like the physical attributes of it and focus more on qualities. And so I kept my list and I was going through it the other night and I was looking at like all the things I'd written down, and there were a few things I was like. I. I manifested this, but I don't think I actually want this. You know, like someone that challenges me, I don't necessarily know that I. I would word it that way like I don't really want to be challenged by someone. Um, there's a different way that I could approach that and there were just a few things I wrote that I was like Yeah, Id. I did get that, but I wouldn't have really been able to realize that was something I didn't want unless I had

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's so crazy,

[lindsay_rose]:

experienced it. So you just you just need to further clarify now and just say Okay, Well, I got what I wanted and now I realize that's not exactly what best suits me. I know myself

[clayton_cuteri]:

Right.

[lindsay_rose]:

better now. like, how could you have? You couldn't have known it without the

[clayton_cuteri]:

Do you think there's a level of like those words, holding maybe a different

[lindsay_rose]:

experience.

[clayton_cuteri]:

meaning and different meaning when

[lindsay_rose]:

Hm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you wrote them, versus whenever it came to provisition? And now you're looking back on it like Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

they carry a different weight.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, oh yeah, yeah. like I think, when I wrote it like I want someone that challenges me. I was like. I want someone that really inspires me to be better. You know,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Mm, I've heard that before,

[lindsay_rose]:

to grow. that really seis me at my full potential. and you know in in a in a loving way, Whereas I think maybe the challenge that I got was kind of like it was more aggressive. It was more of like, uh, I felt like very defensive like I was having to prove myself and I, I don't want that like I. I don't want that experience.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right? it's more of like, Uh, I want somebody

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to help guide in in any struggles. It's not like I want them to create roadblocks. I want them to challenge me. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

right. like comment me with a sword, So we have to go to battle like im.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

No, I don't. I'm not available for that any more.

[clayton_cuteri]:

energy's too valuable for that,

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

but I think that's also like such a crazy thing. Kind of like about these like rationalizations. It's like once you get to these certain places like, Do you really want what you had written down Like did you actually want

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

this thing Like? Was that what you were actually searching for? And this is something I kind of have talked about, Um with another girl. My po cast t r. where it's like you know. Once that thing starts to get closer, and like you're you're there. you're in the physical Alnment. You might snap out of it like like I've seen in my

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

journal like there's things I wrote and looking back on it now I'm like like that. I don't write anymore and I'm like I don't really care for that

[lindsay_rose]:

H.

[clayton_cuteri]:

like I was looking else. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, how you change, Yeah you, I mean, it's so true. there's so many things that I've manifested in my life that I thought were going to feel different than they actually felt like I thought it. And it's all about intention, right, too, like we, when you manifest from the ego because you're trying to fill a void, or you need some kind of validation or you, you want to feel worthy. And you get it. It's It's kind of empty because you realize it's It's not the manifestation that's ever going to give you that feeling. You. You have to really cultivate that within yourself. And then the manifestation is like a byroduct of that and then it's really fulfilling because it's coming from your pure intention instead of a

[clayton_cuteri]:

right. yeah, it's coming from that Cru creative loving inspiring source as

[lindsay_rose]:

lack energy. Yeah, Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

opposed to uh, a place of fear' Like I don't have it. I'm without it. It's like someone else has it.

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly like I want a relationship, because I want to feel loved. you know, or I want someone to love me. It's like that's I don't feel out within myself. so I need someone else to give that to me, you know, and it's I'm without it. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

You know they're going to give me.

[lindsay_rose]:

right, And and you have a really rude awakening when you manifest from that level of consciousness

[clayton_cuteri]:

It becomes something you didn't really want. You weren't really expecting

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly exactly. So be careful what you wish for.

[clayton_cuteri]:

how. How would? uh? Oh, That's a big one. That's a big one.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Um. but what is it? I guess how does that work right where you? if you're cause. I've never. really. I guess manifested from that right, like where you where you want somebody to kind of feelll avoid within you. Does that mean that you kind of like? Are you losing other pieces of yourself or like? When that comes to fruuition? Is it that you're giving them too much power? Like what does that kind of look like? If you were to manifest, Um, trying to manifest, Let's say love specifically, But maybe there's a more ambiguous way you could word it, But like saying, I'd you know, essentially coming from a place of like, I want somebody to love me. You know, I, I. I place that

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

in the external world, it's not within me. It's I need someone else to come in and love me. How does that? How does that

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

shake you? or like? How does that work?

[lindsay_rose]:

so coming from the place of wanting someone to love you because you don't love yourself, you will manifest someone that doesn't know how to love you. you will manifest someone that basically reflects back to you the fact that you don't love yourself and it happens so that you can actually realize that. And now was the experience that I had like with the really toxic relationship. I manifested this individual who was not capable of loving me, but also was very abusive to me because that's how I was treating myself

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay? Okay, cause I, you're actually P.

[lindsay_rose]:

right.

[clayton_cuteri]:

projecting the love. It's It's like this. Okay. And and this brings up another thing, And I know this is a very sensitive topic. If there's one thing I' brought up on this pockcast like it's got to get me. cancelled It to this idea because I don't understand it. Um, and my sister's actually gotten mad at me for the way of worded this in the past, So bear with me if this comes out wrong, I'm I'm trying to figure it out. Uh, the idea of like abusive relationships, I. I, I personally haven't been in one. I know, like a family member who has, Um and I, You know, I'm aware that they're the real they exist. I am still mentally trying to figure out the whole idea of like where the responsibility lies, and when I talk to my sister about this being a female, it's like the the response I get back is like. Oh, well, you know you don't understand how manipulative the guy can be. You don't understand how like a controlling aspect they can have over the person and upon my awakening you know, it's the whole, like, Well, you attract what you are kind of thing. So

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

how is there a way you're able to kind of like you know, reconcile that for me, like it. because in my mind it's kind of like Well, both parties are responsible. But then, like in this new age era where you know the the female empowerment thing and don't get me wrong, I'm all for it. I just I, I kind of get lost in. Okay, Well, it's like both their fault, right, it's not and that's where I'm coming from. I don't know where I am in the errors there. I'm curious how you see that conversation.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, I, I'm more so like to take the approach instead of like fault or blame that It's it's a magnet, so we attract what we are at maached to energetically right. And so it's not. It's not anyone's fault. Like especially someone that's going through an abusive situation. It's not your fault. it's not about blame. It's not that you've done anything wrong, it's it's the fact that this is a very familiar energy for you. It feels familiar probably because of something you've experienced. So you probably have experienced some level of abuse in your childhood. And you attract an individual that feels familiar to you. So it seems like the right thing. You're magnetizing it to you, and it's it's unconscious. Obviously, we don't attract these things consciously like. Oh, I want somebody to abuse me, but it's unconscious, and so when it comes into your life and you allow the behavior right Because we, even even when you're in a state of being like, really highly manipulated and you don't see what's going on? It's it's again. It's not about fault. It's just that you're allowing it to happen

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[lindsay_rose]:

right, you're you're a and you have to. The invitation is really for you to go. I will not tolerate this in my life. I won't tolerate this behavior. I won't tolerate someone treating me like this talking to me like this, but you can't ever really develop that level of self mastery unless you're in the arena with someone that is giving you the opportunity to say. I will not tolerate this abuse, and it's taking your power back not just from that individual but from the abuse that you've experienced all of your life. Right to say, this is not okay with me and I'm not going to tolerate this any morere, And you know, I, just like I said, it's I. I don't think it's about fault. It's about having compassion for yourself in the sense that you would only allow that to happen to you unless it felts like you deserved it or that you weren't worthy of anything better.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, and I think you hit the nail in the head. Maybe it's like that wording a fault right likecause. I cast blame that Cas judgment that. I think that's probably

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

where my erir is in the conversation, because like you are saying, I totally agree with the idea that you're modeing your world of love based off of what you are exposed to from a young age. So

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

I know is from the people who I know who are inbusive relationships. Their parents didn't have the most sound relationship. You know. they experience abuse, cheating or negative emotions associated with that. So the mind then like Okay, that's what love is. you know. and then it gets ingrained at a subconscious level And it's wild how consciously you like know. it's not healthy. but it's still. it's that familiar feeling that you are just gravitated toward

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, yeah, Mhm, Yeah, really. I mean it is like a magnetism, It, it really is, and like I, when I look back on that experience that I had you know five years ago, the one that really changed me. It made me who I am today, like it genuinely made me the woman that I am today. and even with my past this most recent breakup, it is making me even more of who I am and who I want to be. It's helping me to evolve, and the only thing that I have learned is to number one half compassion for myself, because as I was going through the process of experiencing things and and tolerating things that I probably shouldn't have, or not standing up for myself for setting boundaries, I have to have compassion because there's some level of me that felt that I

[clayton_cuteri]:

right.

[lindsay_rose]:

deserve that, And that's the part of me that needs more love. That's the part of me that needs more validation. That's the part of me that needs more me, not anyone else.

[clayton_cuteri]:

The part that is, And can you just refrase? Maybe a bit. I think A my it, but the part that's in that in that fear of that lacking state,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, the part that of me that feels as though I don't deserve better, or the part of me that feels that I need to fix somebody save somebody. tolerate that behavior that I'm not worthy of anything. more than that. this is the best that I can get. There's a part of me that still believed that. Maybe that's the best that I deserved, and that's when you have to have radical self, love and compassion, Because there's a part of me that accepted that you know, and I just see that's where you have to really wrap yourself in so much love and say you know it's okay that you endured this experience. It's okay to you had this experience, Because now you get to actually really turn around and give yourself everything that you need and you become more whole through the

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's like your opportunity for growth and and how you're able to get that

[lindsay_rose]:

process.

[clayton_cuteri]:

doorway

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to the next level.

[lindsay_rose]:

absolutely yeah. yeah.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's pretty crazy. So

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, you. you take the blame away from from anybody right cause it's like if I'm blaming him for this, I'm not taking responsibility for myself

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, I'm not.

[lindsay_rose]:

Because it. I could have. I could have left at any point. I could have you know. I could have done something differently, but I didn't. I chose not to, So that's on me, you know, and I also had things too like it's a. It's a fifty fifty. If you're attracting someone like that, then you're You're obviously giving something off. That's a balance to that, so it's a fifty fifty here and I just have to look at, be able to look at myself and he has his journey. I have my journey and we came into each other's lives for a reason and you either choose to grow or you choose to stay stagnant. And repeat the pattern. I choose growth,

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's a. It's a powerful one to choose. I mean, I know I know

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

stagnant can like feel. it's so interesting. I feel like stagnant feels so comfortable in the short term, but it like builds almost, and then you you, you feel pain in a different way like it's almost like y. It's almost like life is, and hopefully I don't really actually think this. but I guess I'm going to say it anyhow it's almost like life is painful. Either way, it's either painful voluntarily or it's just painful by happen. Stance, like you can volunteer to confront these, you know, emotions, or these situations that you've put yourself in and say, how am I at fault? Like I am going to voluntarily look inward at myself and choose the direction of resistance to let the resistance go. Or I can just say, throw my hands up and just be a victim to the world. In a sense,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Yeah, and you don't go very far there, kind of just attract more experienced to be victimized bycause.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right, it's like it's a self fulfilling prophecy, Almost

[lindsay_rose]:

It's it is it is. It's like you just start expecting all bad things happen to me. I'm not lucky in love you. You give up all these stories about the situation and then you have more of those experiences to validate that that's true for you, and to get out of that you really do. you have to just take radical responsibility for everything.

[clayton_cuteri]:

it, and it's so wild too, Because I had a buddy, uh, high school friend. I'm uh, I'm back in my hometown right now. For a bit. He were're driving in the car I'm driving and he starts telling me about how he. uh, how he always attracts bad drivers. He's like, you know, there's always bad drivers around me like da da dada. I have even brought this up to my coworkers and he's like I always talked to my you know coworkers about. like. Well, what happened today in Kobe? It could be driving to school and his coworkers like you know, always thought he was embellishing, so he rode in the car with him one time and they had an onslaught of bad drivers and apparently the kid was eventually like Yeah, man, like, I don't know what it is with you, but like bad drivers are just, uh, you know, attracted to you. Not

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

thirty seconds after him telling the story, a guy in front of me like cuts me off. and then like another guy starts slowing down, like whenever it should be in the passing line and I'm like dude, Fuck you're You're going to give it to me now.

[lindsay_rose]:

you, your word is your want, I mean literally. it's like

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's so wild

[lindsay_rose]:

you speak it into existence.

[clayton_cuteri]:

it. it's like it. It's like

[lindsay_rose]:

You do.

[clayton_cuteri]:

these words have it. Our words have such magical powers around them that it. it's like a spell. It's like the. You know whether or not you literally believe in witches or not, it's like the the construct that they're built around the idea. The premise of what they held or do is true. It's like it's real in a in a

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

sense in in reality.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, you think about writing. They call it spelling

[clayton_cuteri]:

whoa, whoa.

[lindsay_rose]:

right.

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's trippy.

[lindsay_rose]:

We're literally spelling with our words like you, and

[clayton_cuteri]:

It just blew my mind.

[lindsay_rose]:

in the word it's really not the word. It's the intention.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that's crazy.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, it's where we are. We casting spells with everything that we say and it. it's a vibrational frequency you put out through that intention of the word. Just like with I, M. I mean, it's such a strong vibration that it. it bounces right back to you. You're getting that you're getting exactly what you're speaking to. Always tell people like be the the gatekeeper of your thoughts and the words that come out of your mouth, Because you are literally creating with everything that you're speaking. Even you know things you' joking about. like the subconscious, The universe. It doesn't really have like a

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

sense of humor. If you constantly are saying these things about yourself even in jest, you're still creating that

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, that was a. before. I even kind of went down this whole enlightenment journey. That was like one of the first things I think I realize was when people joke about like, Oh, I'm just I don't even want to say it out loud. but let's say uh,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

joke about suicide, you know, and it comes off as other people being like. Oh, I want to you know. I'm just going to go. you know, Kill myself and I'm to me. I'm like. Don't don't say that, like it that. Stay away from saying stuff

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like that because I know you're joking, but like you don't know you're joking, like your body doesn't know you're joking. And and the next element of that is even if you are joking. The reason that jokes are funny is because they hold some sort of truth to them, and this is why

[lindsay_rose]:

oh yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

comedians get persecuted first. Whenever this whole, you know I, I don't know if you realize this, but like whenever the whole like you know well, I don't want to be specific, but any time let's say that there's like a a. A freedom of speech, Uh, renaissance, let's say, or an attack on free speech, Comedians are always are ninety percent of the time the first people that are gunned after. and the problem is is that

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

for joke for a joke to be funny, an element of it has to hold true in society. Like it. It's the only way

[lindsay_rose]:

y,

[clayton_cuteri]:

we laugh Is like. Oh, you were able to twist this real thing with your words into something that's funny that we all know is true. And and that's the irony. I think of all of of all of it you know.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Yeah, and again, Like because the subconscious is literal like it's it. doesn't. It takes everything that you say it. it face value like, even when you're setting intentions for yourself, it's important to write them or speak them in the present Tens, as if you already have them in and in a positive format, Because if you're saying I'm no longer going to smoke cigarettes, or I'm no longer going to drink alcohol, the subconscious is just seeing, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes. Like there, it doesn't know the knots and I'm not going to, or it's so you want to really like speak things in a positive way of what. the way that you want them to be, not how you don't want them to be. That's a big change in switch when you're manifesting

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that's super powerful in itself. I remember I was looking at. I don't remember what book. I think I saw a book or something, but it was talking about how you should not don't use the word, not avoid the word. Not because

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

your brain can't conceptualize it, and I don't really know how much it holds true. but they were talking about how whenever you deal with kids with autism or learning disabilities, you always avoid the word. not because their brain doesn't doesn't grab it. And so it's and so maybe there's at least some level of like. That's how our analy, or you know our subconscious mind works. Is it's like you don't say Like not not something like you. Your brain doesn't. You might say that into

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

existence, but like for some reason you, you don't hear it right. And

[lindsay_rose]:

right, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and a fascinating example of this is, Uh, I was taking a yoga class, and um, and a fascinating example of this is, Uh, I was taking a yoga class, and um, my buddy James, been on the pockcas. If you're listening and go listen to my buddy James, been on the pockcas. If you're listening and go listen to his be cause they're incredible. He would. We were teaching A. He was his be cause they're incredible. He would. We were teaching A. He was teaching a yoga class and you know he was going through it into like the Uh teaching a yoga class and you know he was going through it into like the Uh end of Evana Vyasa, Venyoa, Vo, When you like lay down. end of Evana Vyasa, Venyoa, Vo, When you like lay down.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

He.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

the best part

[clayton_cuteri]:

So what he he said was is that he like bring you into. He' like relax and he goes. I want you to forget about your bills. Your this, your stress, your worries, and I, real, and I caught it and I and I realize like afterwards as like, Hey man, like Superoe class. The one thing I would point out is that like your brain doesn't catch those knots. Like if you tell someone to not think about something you think about it. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

there. think about it. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

if I tell you not to think about a pink eleant, you're going to think about a pink elephant like

[lindsay_rose]:

yp,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's so bizar. It's a w. Yeah.

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly exactly to the point.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, so it's like,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, yeah, so truth, positive thoughts, choo, ise what you want to focus on. I mean, there's like a. There's a literal like formula to this that I actually came up with it one day when I was in the shower And this is like what sparked a whole, a course that I do for for people to teach about manifestation. But it's like there's an actual formula to this. You have to have an intention with focus of energy with inspired action And then it's kind of like you know, there's a gestation period to where it actually becomes physical. It's just like having a child right. There's a. There's a gestation period of when that's going to actually be birthed, but you have to maintain the intention, the focus, and take inspired action on whatever that is for you, and over time without a fail it will manifest for you,

[clayton_cuteri]:

And it co. And I think that's what comes back to the whole. It comes back to what you were saying earlier where it's like you know you need to change that internal state of being and allow those ripples to carry out into the universe for the universe to do whatever magic. it does. However it does it. and at some point in time

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's like we don't get to know the when or the how, just the what.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

And so it's just like you, just give it to it. You just put that energy out there. You align with the frequency at an energetic quantum level and just

[lindsay_rose]:

mhm, mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you just be in that and you wait for all the other past ripples to come because they're going to come from your old state of being and

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you just let them pass through you.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yep, that's exactly it. And just don't give your attention to it. If it's not in alignment with what you want. You just notice it, but don't feed on it. Don't dwell on it. Don't be depressed about it. just say, Oh, that's old energy

[clayton_cuteri]:

Refcus.

[lindsay_rose]:

refocus. You know, shift my focus Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

That was something I got from. uh, uh. who was it? Joe De Sps. A. In one of his meditations he talks about like purposefully recalling those old energies that you had released. He didn't really work like this, but there's old energies and then when you feel them, just

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

say change. So it programs

[lindsay_rose]:

Mm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you that you're like Okay. When these energies come back, I'm going to realize that that's that ripple that's coming back at me and I'm just going to say No. That's on

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

me anymore. like you can go through like wherever you're going. Just keep on going. Yeah, that's that, not me anymore.

[lindsay_rose]:

keep passing through. Yeah, right. yeah, another like really powerful tool that I use for people. It's like an n l p technique. but Um, you know if you've got a a memory from your past or something that you've been holding onto that you just keep reliving over and over and over again. it's you're You're usually going to experience similar situations in the form of triggers. You know, you get triggered by something. It's because you have this initial memory or experience that happened that you haven't actually cleared the energy from. So what I do is I walk people back through like a a hypnosis of their time line, and take them back to this experience in time where they had this memory and help them to actually learn the lesson from it. Clear the energy and emotion. And then I take them right back to before that event occurred, and I have them create a new memory, a new experience of like something they would have liked to experience instead. and you know, like I said, because the subconscious doesn't know if it's real or imagined. This is a way that you can alter your past and create memories that have emotions that are actually you know, more positive and conducive for the way that you want to feel, the the life that you want to live, and it's incredibly transformative

[clayton_cuteri]:

It reminds me the two things that come to mind. let's start. Uh, I don't know which go with. Do you think this is a level of uh, childhood trauma or like or childhood trauma healing? Would that be example of that? And then the other

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. Yeah, yeah, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

thing that was coming to

[lindsay_rose]:

y,

[clayton_cuteri]:

mind that was ringing true is like I remember seeing a video on Youtube. It was like you know we. It was like you know how to create a time machine and the core concept of Visit of it is close your eyes. It's like there you are. Like you just made a time machine, because you can put yourself physiologically mentally into the past and into the future. you know it. It

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

becomes dangerous when when you're doing this habitually without realizing it, and you know, becoming overworking. Essentially this the time machine that you have in your brain. You know, because you

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

know E, everything is now right and you know your mind. If left uncheck will just run, ramp it like it's like you're just perpetually in your own mental time machine, creating these things or destroying things, And you know if if you're not aware that you have that ability, it it it takes you. it. It ruins your present moment. It ruins your ability to to be present to be in this place of appreciation for where you are, where you've come and where you want to go,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Yeah, Mhm. Yeah, it's like you said. I mean everything is now, so there technically really is no past. There is no future. There's only this moment. And so if you are constantly reliving past experiences that happen to you, it's as if you were in that experience

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

right now you're having the same response to it. So that's why it's so important to heal from these things, because otherwise you're just like energetically still stuck in that emotional state of being and it's difficult to create a new life for yourself or a new state of being when you're carrying all this old baggage from your

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

past and you' living in the past.

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah, yeah, you're just like carrying all this luggage that you no longer use. And so it's like you're going to

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

still pull from that luggage or still use those tools whenever it's like. Well, ro, Do you still really want

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to use these tools like they haven't worked out so far. You got to change something up. If you want something else to happen,

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, I mean, it's just like a file system, right. It's like all these experiences that we've had when somebody rubs up against us and it reminds us of this experience we had. It's what

[clayton_cuteri]:

right,

[lindsay_rose]:

we call a trigger. You know. The triggers are the greatest gifts that we have to understand our wounds. Because you're you're getting this information that says something is not right. You' a go. It's like a flag. You know, warning signs going off that you have something within you that needs to be shifted. You need to change your perspective on something. otherwise you're going to keep having these triggers

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're going to double down. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

and y, mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're going to become like stronger in it. Ha, have you

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Exactly

[clayton_cuteri]:

have you? Um, I don't think I asked you this before. It hasn't at least come up yet And if you don't want to talk about it, feel free to say no comment. But have you messed around with any like Allcagins or psychedelics?

[lindsay_rose]:

I,

[clayton_cuteri]:

No,

[lindsay_rose]:

I haven't, but I'm I'm open to it. I feel like that's something you know. I definitely would love to explore. I've I've had like halluccigenic experiences just for meditation, like transcendental meditation before Um, and sound

[clayton_cuteri]:

okay.

[lindsay_rose]:

baths like I remember, had a sound bath in Uh, in Joshuitry, There's like this really incredible sound bath that I I went to and I just remember like leaving my body and having this like really interesting experience Ro, which is part of everything and it just felt like a grid system that we were all just like In this grid system connected, we're all just like a web connected and it was

[clayton_cuteri]:

I bet that's wild. Yeah, but so I did a sound healing one time and I

[lindsay_rose]:

really cool. but yeah, yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

remember it was something pretty similar Like you do this like we doing like breathing at the same time like heavy breathing with it. Yeah, and yet

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, yeah. yeah. It's like Kundolini Energy Two and yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

it. it's like a trip all on its own, like

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh, my gosh. yeah.

[clayton_cuteri]:

which I think is so wild how we're able. It's like this level of like. we've placed the ability to hallucinate into these. You know plants, let's say, and we' like Okay, Like the

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like. The government's like Okay, you can't. T these plans to hallucinate, but you know you, you can very easily hallucinate, you know, just through your breath through sound

[lindsay_rose]:

Through your breath,

[clayton_cuteri]:

healing through. Arguably right now, this is a form of hallucination that I'm experiencing right now,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

the human, the human hallucination. I'm plugged in. and you know just going at it right

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

now, And so I, I guess I find that interesting that there's like this level of hallucinations that are allowed. Vers, not allowed.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mm, yeah, well, actually I, I think I took gosh. This must have been like six years ago or something, but I took like uh, uh, Molly at one

[clayton_cuteri]:

Okay,

[lindsay_rose]:

point and it must have been laced with something Cause I went to a reggae concert and I remember like looking around it. Everybody just looked pixulated. They were just like dots and they were all

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, damn.

[lindsay_rose]:

looking at me and it was one of those experiences where I was like Whoa, Like this is a. It felt like a matrix that it felt really unreal. I will never forget that. It's it's when I realized that I was actually like in control of what I was seeing what I was experiencing and it was. yeah.

[clayton_cuteri]:

really. So did did you like dive into a deeper?

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Did you like try to change what you were saying?

[lindsay_rose]:

I tried to change it because I didn't know at the time like I hadn't really had a spiritual wake

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, okay,

[lindsay_rose]:

and I didn't know what was happening to be honest, But then later on I realized like I had kind of seen through the veil of what was actually

[clayton_cuteri]:

uh, you saw behind the curtains

[lindsay_rose]:

happening. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

and it seems like that's like kind of what they do In generals. You get to and it seems like that's like kind of what they do In generals. You get to see behind the curtains almost of what's actually occurring. see behind the curtains almost of what's actually occurring.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, yeah, yeah, which is really cool.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, one of my, uh, I remember. Um, You're in Nashville. not, but in Sen in San Diego. For some reason, I thought you were in San Diego. Uh, there was like a a concert they were holding and it's like usually at like a stadium, or it was at a stadium

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

And you know I was took eesty or something, and I remember like I'm super like introspective whenever I do these things, And I remember that was the first time that I kind of had this epiphany of like you know where is, like the center, almost like I remember looking at the stadium. And you know, if you think of baseball stadium, it's not even by any stretch of the imagination. You know you have more bleachers over here. You have different concessions over here. You know even the field there. It's not really symmetrical. I mean, I guess' symmetrical if you cut it down the middle. But if you go horizontally, it's not and I remember thinking like, you know. if you were to point to the center of the stadium, there's probably ten different answers. You know. If if it's by volume, if it's by, you know, circumference or the perimeter, and that like, had this huge mental flip in my head where I was like. Oh shit, like you know, I am the center of the universe. but so is everybody else. Like everything is this own unique center of the universe and the way we experience it. And I think this ties into our earlier thing about how you know everybody's right. In a sense, you know,

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm, Yeah, it's I mean. It's so cool to think about like where we all come from the same source, like we're all coming from the same energy. It's just that part of that consciousness is dropped into this physical body, which is only one point of attraction, one perspective, but it's all from the same thing. so we're just having these unique experiences individually. But that's what expands the universe,

[clayton_cuteri]:

is that individual experience? Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

right it is. Yeah, yeah, that's how we. We're sending feedback to the source to expand consciousness to our individual perception of reality, but it's all the same consciousness just filter through different lenses of perception and experiences.

[clayton_cuteri]:

right. It's almost like I think there's like a meam or something, but it shows like a a guy. It's almost like there's a guy underground and then his like fingers are kind of coming up through the ground And it looks like Diglet, almost like from Pokemon where there's like

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm.

[clayton_cuteri]:

fingers are coming up And it's like each one of those fingers are like a person and it's kind of like this metaphorical

[lindsay_rose]:

Yep,

[clayton_cuteri]:

representation of like we're all just fractions of the same thing.

[lindsay_rose]:

exactly.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah. it's It's kind of cool to think about, but I mean, like I said before, I think that's really where you're able to find unconditional love for

[clayton_cuteri]:

because it's one of those things that's like inside and then you kind of

[lindsay_rose]:

peoplecause.

[clayton_cuteri]:

have to go and project it without

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, exactly

[clayton_cuteri]:

shit. Yeah, but

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

min love.

[clayton_cuteri]:

doing a lot of that today, Lindsay.

[lindsay_rose]:

Likewise, I feel

[clayton_cuteri]:

Well,

[lindsay_rose]:

like we're expanding

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

consciousness right now.

[clayton_cuteri]:

hopefully we're I mean, we're doing it every moment. Right conces are always being expanded.

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

every choice, every decision.

[lindsay_rose]:

every choice, every thought, all of it. Yeah, yp,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh, is this is this something that? How does that kind of like happen whenever you go into a coaching aspect? Then, like I, I'm sure you don't. Just someone comes in and you don't just tell them that. Oh yeah, you're just a fraction of consciousness Like. Is there like a level of gauging where everybody is in their own path of it?

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh, absolutely. Everybody iss at a different point in this journey in in their path, which is, is really cool because it makes my job really exciting. You know, it's like I love the people that I get to work with that are so new to this and they're like. You know. I, I know a little bit about it, but to me that's so exciting because you're really just like blowing their mind every single time and you know then there are people that are further along in their journey And it's still like the beautiful thing about this. And you know, one of the gifts that I have is this intuitive ability to really understand what blocks people. I don't know where it comes from, but I just I have this knowing it's just a clear cognizance. I guess, um, but when I'm in coaching sessions with people, I can just automatically understand what is blocking them from being able to attract what they want or

[clayton_cuteri]:

Really?

[lindsay_rose]:

receive what they want, and I think those are the mind blowing experiences people have be cause. It's like they've been living in this paradigm for so long that they can't see their own blocks. And then when you're able to point that out to them, they're like. How did I not know about this? Like for my

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

whole life? You know, how was this just standing in the way and I and I didn't

[clayton_cuteri]:

how long does it usually take you to get there like just a couple of

[lindsay_rose]:

realize it, but it's

[clayton_cuteri]:

seconds, minutes, hours

[lindsay_rose]:

usually within like a half hour.

[clayton_cuteri]:

within a half hour. Just talk to someone you're like, Oh, this is

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, mhm,

[clayton_cuteri]:

you're being blocked here.

[lindsay_rose]:

Mhm, Yeah, I can like. literally. There's questions that I ask to kind of lead people to understand them. Um, and then, once I'm able to get clarity on those questions, I can pretty much understand what's what's going on, and then once you identify the blocks, that is the process of actually being able to like, rewire that to heal from it, Understand it, and we go through all that and then you know through that peeling of the the onion and that layer, then underneath

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

that there's usually something else and it's just this evolution of you know, understanding yourself and healing and never stops its ascension.

[clayton_cuteri]:

the next level, this thing, that thing. Uh, yeah, I can

[lindsay_rose]:

Yep. yep,

[clayton_cuteri]:

certainly relate to that on. I always loved the peeling of the onion metaphor because it's like you know you get the one layer down. You're like Oh shit like I didn't know. That was what was blocking me And then you heal it. You' good.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

But then the next layer shows itself and you're like Ah, shit. here we go again.

[lindsay_rose]:

yeah, you just learn to ride the wave. I mean you really do. It's like this's what I was saying before. it's like. Even if it's really good, you know that something is going to come along to help you grow. It's like it's cyclical. Just like the seasons. When the winter comes, we are introspective, and you know there's growth that occurs and you know the inner world, and then through the spring things blossom. the sun shines again, and then you go through these cycles of life of just ebbing and flowing, and you find peace when you just you, just go with it. You stop resisting it, You just allow it to transform you. You allow yourself to just experience it and find a gratitude in it. And then you know know that everything's temporary. I think that's I. That's the way I've been able to really find peace with life. It's just

[clayton_cuteri]:

It's very. It's very sto of you, Lindsay.

[lindsay_rose]:

go with the flow. I actually got a tattoo

[clayton_cuteri]:

Oh, really,

[lindsay_rose]:

of a wa on my wrists because it just reminds me like, Just go with the flow

[clayton_cuteri]:

I mean, that's all it is. just waves going in coming out. You know,

[lindsay_rose]:

wherever you're at. Just just go with it. Mhm, Mhm, And if you miss one there's always going to be another way of coming

[clayton_cuteri]:

do you do you feel like it's uh? oh, Wow, I just lost the question. It was

[lindsay_rose]:

in.

[clayton_cuteri]:

in my head. Oh bad radio. Ah, man

[lindsay_rose]:

It must not have been important.

[clayton_cuteri]:

must not have been important. Just like all right. It'll come back

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, just like

[clayton_cuteri]:

just right the way.

[lindsay_rose]:

ride the way, Let her flow.

[clayton_cuteri]:

Uh,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

that's so cool though, I mean I. I mean, I think that's awesome. Um, damn, wow, now I feel really blocked. Huh, are you able to diagnose me? Let me know it's blocking me over. thinking

[lindsay_rose]:

overthinking.

[clayton_cuteri]:

You get

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

like this. S marark of excitement. just like three questions pop into your head And then it's just like. Ah, Shit. Where are we go? Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

it's like overload. Yes, overload. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

uh, I must be losing my lack of presence right now.

[lindsay_rose]:

that just could mean that we have exceeded our the expansion that we came here

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you're right now. It. it feels like I am trying to

[lindsay_rose]:

to create today.

[clayton_cuteri]:

force it to be longer.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah, don't force it. Don't force it. I think this was expensive and great conversation. Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Yeah, so I mean hell, I'm was a pleasure. Lindsey. Thank you so much for being here. Um, do you want

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

to? I always give you. I' give you the floor. I'm going to grab all your handles from you afterwards all your lenks. Is there anything that you want to promote people to do, Encourage people or and promote I, You can promote yourself a product. I'll give you the floor for anything you're interested in.

[lindsay_rose]:

well, first of all, thank you so much for all of this this whole experience. your time, your questions, your presence, everything. I just really really appreciate it and truly been in honor to share it today. Um, And you know I have on Tik talk? I do a lot of videos about manifestation, So if anybody is new to the process, they want to learn more. It's a great place to start to. Just like how quick to s. and and insight there. Um, I have a Youtube channel where I kind of go more in depth on things. Um, everything is under the quantum blond, so it's pretty easy to find. Um. And then on my insteigram, I share more of like my personal life, just kind of like who I am behind the scenes sort of thing, as well as inspirational stuff there, and um, starting February twenty second, I'm um, opening up a My quantum Manifestation academy So we're actually beginning on February twenty second, And this is like a twelve week group coaching program where I literally walk you through everything that you could ever possibly want to know about manifestation. How it works from a scientific perspective, how to set intentions, how to visualize, Um. How do it really embody your desires? and um. I. I first launched it back in. Uh in the summer and it was just incredible. The people that came in are still like friends today. and it's just a great community. so Um, if anybody's interested in learning more about manifestation, come join

[clayton_cuteri]:

so it says a real quick note. Uh,

[lindsay_rose]:

us.

[clayton_cuteri]:

unfortunately,

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

this this pocke has going to get aired on February twenty eighth. Yeah,

[lindsay_rose]:

okay, you could cut that. Okay, well, um, if you want learn about manifestation, I mean, I have plenty of resources. lots of things that you can find, and um. I, yes,

[clayton_cuteri]:

well, there be another one right. You'll have another quantum manifestation thing

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes, I'm launching. I launch it every. Um. usually every spring, and then either summer or fall or twice a year, so you can.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and people can connect with you in otherise. you've got.

[lindsay_rose]:

absolutely. yeah. I've got I do one on one, Um. private coaching for people. Um, If you want to just work on your own personal goals, and like, be able to dive deeper, have different packages. I also offer a one on one manifestation coaching session. If you just need some clarity on one specific thing you're looking to manifest. you can book all of this or my website.

[clayton_cuteri]:

I love it. I love it. And

[lindsay_rose]:

The Quantum Blonde Dot com.

[clayton_cuteri]:

and then make sure you're following her, Because then you'll be able to get into the next quantum. What do you call it Quantum

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes, the Quantum manifestation account, Omy,

[clayton_cuteri]:

Quantum Manifestation Academy? Sam? That's powerful. You can just hear it, and the and entitle that

[lindsay_rose]:

Yes, yeah, yes, it's so powerful like on the transformations I've seen from people. like just in twelve weeks. Just it's incredible, you know. it just goes to show that time is only an illusion and you can create anything.

[clayton_cuteri]:

it's so beautiful And I'm sure that empowers you to keep going

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

forward too.

[lindsay_rose]:

Oh, it's it's what gets me out of bed. I just I love. I love what I do. I just feel so privileged to be able to do this every day and make it a living. And just it's so fulfilling and so rewarding.

[clayton_cuteri]:

That's beautiful. that's beautiful. Well, Lindsey.

[lindsay_rose]:

Yeah,

[clayton_cuteri]:

thank you, Um, on behalf of the Conch Monkey society, Uh, we're all very grateful for you to

[lindsay_rose]:

I love it.

[clayton_cuteri]:

share it. Um, yeah, with that being said, I hope you guys learned something today from Lindsay and her experience definitely go check her out. You going to drop all the links over links in the description of below, so go smash those. Go. you know, follow her. check her out. She's got some dope stuff. other than that, Um, you know, let's grow together.